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Social media is spreading 'toxic positivity'

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Re: Social media is spreading 'toxic positivity'

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It's not that complaining is inherently bad, it's that it tends to be uninteresting and unstimulating.

Yes, I know the sky is rainy grey today. It does nothing for either of us if you point that out for the fifteenth time. On the other hand, if you compare the sky to a giant peeing elephant, then we're now engaged intellectually at least a little bit.

Personally, I don't complain unless I can come up with an interesting way to spin my complaint.

Re: Social media is spreading 'toxic positivity'

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This "highlight reel" excuse is an excuse. I mean, why a person has a better highlight reel than another? Probably the one with a better highlight reel has a better life. I think denying the truthfulness in highlight reels is a form of toxic positivity.

It's not that the highlight reel is better. It's that you only see the good days. Sure, maybe one day you can get a bunch of stuff done and post about it, and then the next week you get nothing done. But if the only post people see is the one about getting all the stuff done, then they will assume that happens every day, including the days you don't post. The problem with the highlight reel is that people assume it a…

The problem is that some people don't have an highlight reel in their whole life. Nobody thinks the highlight reel is a daily occurence, but at least it happened and for many people happens a lot, hence the well-justified envy. I hope this explain my point better. Aldo I wish people on hackernews would stop downvoting unpopular opinions. I can tell the balances of my posts before even posting, damn.

Re: Social media is spreading 'toxic positivity'

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I'm constantly having to remind my wife that she's a good mother. She keeps seeing all the posts on Facebook from her groups about how some woman made dinner, built a diorama and made enough to buy a new purse from her side business all in one day! And she thinks she's a slacker because "all" she can do is feed the kids and read them a story. I have to keep telling her that she's only seeing the highlight reel of tho…

It's north of 99% likely that the posts about affording things on a side business are also lies[0], so it's an impossible standard at every level!

[0] Sorry for the reddit link, but https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM is instructive on this score

Re: Social media is spreading 'toxic positivity'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This "highlight reel" excuse is an excuse. I mean, why a person has a better highlight reel than another? Probably the one with a better highlight reel has a better life. I think denying the truthfulness in highlight reels is a form of toxic positivity.

> I mean, why a person has a better highlight reel than another? But you aren't comparing their highlight reel to yours. You're comparing it to your entire life, because you have visibility into everything in your life, including all the stuff you don't post.

That's not how it works. The suffering generally comes from the fact that some people can have highlight reels and others can't at all.

Re: Social media is spreading 'toxic positivity'

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I'm constantly having to remind my wife that she's a good mother. She keeps seeing all the posts on Facebook from her groups about how some woman made dinner, built a diorama and made enough to buy a new purse from her side business all in one day! And she thinks she's a slacker because "all" she can do is feed the kids and read them a story. I have to keep telling her that she's only seeing the highlight reel of tho…

Soon after our first was born my wife asked her moms group: 'is four in the afternoon too early to have a beer?'. They answered: 'Oh, no, we've discussed it extensively and three o'clock is fine.' Nothing wrong with being an ambitious mom but you need to pick the right support group and it's probably not instagram.

The book "Why we Sleep" talks about how alcohol is a REM-suppressor and how it prevents you from getting deep restful sleep. Drinking alcoholic drinks in the evening/night is much worse than drinking earlier in the day.

Re: Social media is spreading 'toxic positivity'

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I'm constantly having to remind my wife that she's a good mother. She keeps seeing all the posts on Facebook from her groups about how some woman made dinner, built a diorama and made enough to buy a new purse from her side business all in one day! And she thinks she's a slacker because "all" she can do is feed the kids and read them a story. I have to keep telling her that she's only seeing the highlight reel of tho…

This place gets that ways some times. I like reading the comments here, as there are a lot of insightful comments that I often learn more from than the article itself. Though sometimes it feels that if you are not working at one of the FAANGs making $400k/year that you are a total loser.

Well here's a thought that might help (and I swear I'm not doing the same thing they're pointing out in the article, because as you'll see, it really isn't even particularly positive, hahaha):

To the extent each of those companies is working against the public interest (which you can decide for yourself or debate with someone), their employees are all traitors against the people. And buying a traitor always costs a lot of money. Even Judas got 30 pieces of silver. (And even if that story is a work of fiction, that detail is still a masterful touch, no?)

So maybe you have less money, but maybe you're also slightly less fucked-up inside, less cut-off from yourself, less prone to attack people for trivial reasons, and less plagued by thought patterns cluttered with convoluted self-justifications. Think about it and... [silly comment about anticipated downvotes redacted]

Re: Social media is spreading 'toxic positivity'

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This place gets that ways some times. I like reading the comments here, as there are a lot of insightful comments that I often learn more from than the article itself. Though sometimes it feels that if you are not working at one of the FAANGs making $400k/year that you are a total loser.

Well here's a thought that might help (and I swear I'm not doing the same thing they're pointing out in the article, because as you'll see, it really isn't even particularly positive, hahaha): To the extent each of those companies is working against the public interest (which you can decide for yourself or debate with someone), their employees are all traitors against the people. And buying a traitor always costs a l…

> And buying a traitor always costs a lot of money. Even Judas got 30 pieces of silver.

30 silver pieces actually wasn’t much money. These are commonly thought to refer to a silver shekel. If so, it’d be 30x11.4g or 342g of silver total, about $164 at today’s prices.

30 shekels was also the price of a slave according to Exodus 21:32. So, the fact that the Pharisees paid Judas only the price of a slave shows their immense disrespect for the Christ.

Re: Social media is spreading 'toxic positivity'

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well here's a thought that might help (and I swear I'm not doing the same thing they're pointing out in the article, because as you'll see, it really isn't even particularly positive, hahaha): To the extent each of those companies is working against the public interest (which you can decide for yourself or debate with someone), their employees are all traitors against the people. And buying a traitor always costs a l…

> And buying a traitor always costs a lot of money. Even Judas got 30 pieces of silver. 30 silver pieces actually wasn’t much money. These are commonly thought to refer to a silver shekel. If so, it’d be 30x11.4g or 342g of silver total, about $164 at today’s prices. 30 shekels was also the price of a slave according to Exodus 21:32. So, the fact that the Pharisees paid Judas only the price of a slave shows their imm…

Umm ... that slave price was not adjusted for inflation

Re: Social media is spreading 'toxic positivity'

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So on the other hand there is a toxic negativity that seems to reign in pop culture where people's impression of many things in society in general are on the pessimistic side of what real data shows. I wonder if this tendency towards toxic positivity in social media is some kind of equal but opposite effect that acts as a balance.

I don't think they balance out. I think they're orthogonal. Note that pop culture negativity is mostly about how society sucks; per ineedasername's comment, the protagonist finds love or some other individual positivity. Social media "toxic positivity" is also about individuals having it good, not about the society doing good.

Both phenomena taken together create this negative outlook, "the world sucks and I personally suck". But this negativity is also what drives engagement, so there's no incentive to stop it - not in works of fiction, and not in social media.

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