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Re: Medical researcher discovers integration, gets 75 citations

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I'd laugh a lot harder when people struggle for days and then reach a half-assed piece of some algorithm that's completely well know if I hadn't been there a dozen times myself. Programmers are especially vulnerable to this. Who hasn't made a 4 page case statement when 3 lines of recursion would have done it, especially when starting out? Then again, I've never named my case statements after myself. No matter how bri…

No matter how brilliant one is, its ridiculously hard to know what you don't know.

This cannot be overstated. And when ego is the cause...oy vey! I believe that one of the greatest intellectual challenges to overcome when one over identifies as being "brilliant" is the, oft youthful, focus on pedantry. How embarrassingly ironic to display one's ignorance as a result of flaunting one's intellect. As a recovering pendant well in to those years that separate true youth from "decidedly middle-aged" let me sincerely recommend to some of our (mostly) younger members that they put down the Bertrand Russell long enough to pick up some William Blake.

  When used properly, I have found that one of the most powerful phrases I can use to build confidence, trust, and credibility with a client is "I don't know."

Re: Medical researcher discovers integration, gets 75 citations

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Just to be clear, and this might be tangential, but she is not a physician - I think she is a dietitian. I think its a fallacy to assume that only physicians publish in medical journals and there is a negligible link between over-the-top premeds and this article. Mary M. Tai www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/54/5/783.pdf http://journals.lww.com/topicsinclinicalnutrition/Citation/1... I can't access the article, so I can't mak…

We found the same link... and you're correct, she isn't a physician. In the Topics in Clinical Nutrition 1992 paper, she is listed as having an MS and an EdD. So, it's safe to say that she probably didn't realize that she was describing integration. The entire post had a "I'm smarter than you" chip on your shoulder type of vibe. It should also be noted that this paper had a number of letters to the editor about it, s…

I agree that it seemed to have this "I'm smarter than you" vibe, but the only reason I half-agreed is that I feel like it takes some nerve to try to name your discovery after yourself. It wouldn't be so bad if she called it the "curve-approximation method" or something like that; but coming up with something and deciding to name it after yourself feels kind of presumptuous and not exceptionally helpful to boot. (As far as I know, most concepts and ideas named after people weren't self-named; Dijkstra, arrogant as he was, published "A note on two problems in connexion with graphs," and never mentioned "Dijkstra's algorithm.")

Re: Medical researcher discovers integration, gets 75 citations

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The author calls out med students for approaching physics through rote memorization. It reminds me of an experience my older brother and I had with a doctor friend. Our friend, an OB/GYN, mentioned how hard her work is, because "the average baby is born at 3am." We laughed, but then my brother asked, "What does 'average' mean when you have a 24-hour clock? It must mean the modal time or something like that." I contri…

Chasing down the source of the information, calling it into question, relating it to other things in the world-- these just weren't things she seemed to find pleasurable.

Do you really want your doctor to be that sort of person? Do you want the person treating your kid for rickets to stand up and challenge the establishment and test a new hypothesis on the disease?

I don't know about you, but I'd prefer it if the medical researchers did the challenging, questioning and validating, and the practicing doctors (in general) went with the established knowledge. In my opinion practice and research (of most any subject) are fundamentally divided, and so long as a person can maintain perspective I think no worse of them for preferring one side to the other.

Re: Medical researcher discovers integration, gets 75 citations

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According to Google Scholar, it's actually been cited 137 times. Another paper published in '98, cited 499 times, reads: The integrated area under the curve (AUC) analysis for glucose and insulin was determined according to the formula of Tai et al. Damn.

U MAD?

Seems like a great way to both pad out your citations and troll your readers!

Re: Medical researcher discovers integration, gets 75 citations

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I'd laugh a lot harder when people struggle for days and then reach a half-assed piece of some algorithm that's completely well know if I hadn't been there a dozen times myself. Programmers are especially vulnerable to this. Who hasn't made a 4 page case statement when 3 lines of recursion would have done it, especially when starting out? Then again, I've never named my case statements after myself. No matter how bri…

> Then again, I've never named my case statements after myself. I bet you created a half-assed linked-list implementation and prefixed the class name with your initial, though ;)

Ooh spooky close. I was 14. I though I'd invented a whole new kind of array. I dubbed them k_arrays (for kickass arrays of course.)

When I was 15 I took my first real programming course. Soon I was a bit sadder and much wiser. Fortunately, it was just part of the cirriculum. I managed to learn the lesson without ever displaying my shocking ignorance and bringing shame to my family for generations. (not to mention completeling the homework implementing a simple linked list with much speed)

The really sad part is, despite all my enthusiasm, it never once occured to me to link them in both directions to enable bi-directional traversal. Half-assed indeed.

Re: Medical researcher discovers integration, gets 75 citations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I ask you a question? Why is rote memorization frowned upon in math? I'm a second year math student about to enter his third year. I enter a lot of the definitions, theorems, etc. into a flash card software (Anki) for memorization. I combine this with doing tons of proofs and problems from various textbooks depending upon the course I'm studying. I would say from personal experience that rote memorization has def…

Everything I remember about maths I remember because I understood the "why" of it. The stuff I learned rote - just to pass the exams - I have long since forgotten. I'm now frustrated that I was expected to learn anything by rote, as it's all lost to the sands of time now. Rote memorization might help you with exams and book problems, but it won't help you develop long-term mathematical problem-solving skills. If you…

Depends, I had that opinion too until I took university maths. The proofs they give you to learn by rote are actually extremely useful, as they add techniques to your repertoire that you otherwise wouldn't have..and the difference between 'learning the proof by rote' and 'learning the technique' is usually extremely small.
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