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Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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Post by gnicholas »

reitzensteinm wrote: post #25
aerovistae wrote: post #8

Uh, wait. They're taking the Model 3 Standard off the menu....so.....that means the $35k version just got stopped? Sigh. It's a bit sad for me because I have been a bigger fanatic for this company than almost anyone, for maybe 9 years now, and my passion is fading. I recognize how hard the thing they're doing is, and how they're doing everything they can...but the repeated dishonesty is just very off-putting to me. I…

This is just the 50 kWh Model S, rinse and repeat. Get the positive PR for launching the low cost version, attempt to sell as few as possible, then take it off the menu.

Don't forget that when the mythical $35k Model 3 was announced, Tesla purchasers could get the full federal tax credit. That would have put the price below $30k, perhaps even after destination fees.

But since they opted to only sell the higher-tier Model 3s first, the tax credits only ever went to buyers paying much more than $35k.

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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Post by [deleted] »

tschwimmer wrote: post #21

I think the title of this submission should be changed to 'Tesla removes 35k Model 3 option' or similar. Their cheapest option is now a bit under 40k USD because they're including autopilot as standard.

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Post by pilingual »

usaphp wrote: post #52
tschwimmer wrote: post #21

I think the title of this submission should be changed to 'Tesla removes 35k Model 3 option' or similar. Their cheapest option is now a bit under 40k USD because they're including autopilot as standard.

Out of all of the people I know who own tesla, I have yet to meet anyone who bought one without autopilot. I don't understand why would you decide to purchase tesla over other electric cars if it was not for autopilot. If you want electric without autopilot - there are better options than tesla, so maybe the reason why they removed it was because a vast majority of people were purchasing the autopilot model, and offe…

> If you want electric without autopilot - there are better options than tesla

Please do tell me these better options as I had been considering a Model X but do not want to be forced to buy autopilot. I just looked into Audi eTron after reading this update and it only has 200 miles of range. Everything else about Tesla is the best - range, UI updates, supercharger. What other electric car is a “better option?”

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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Post by dragontamer »

jedberg wrote: post #29
AndrewBissell wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It actually never existed, except as a configuration fee grab. There have been no confirmed sightings of a base $35K Model 3 with fabric interior and manual seat adjusters.

That's because they don't start shipping until this weekend.

That's what they said 3 weekends ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/b4dl1p/deliver...

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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Post by dragonwriter »

jakobegger wrote: post #57

So to summarize: - Tesla launches 35k Standard model along with 37,5k Standard Plus Model - Tesla raises price of Standard Plus Model to 39,5k - Tesla discontinues Standard Model So Tesla just increased the base price of the Model 3 from 35k to 39.5k, but tried to do some marketing tricks to make you feel like it's a great deal.

The Standard isn't discontinued, it's just rejiggered to be a software-limited version of Standard Plus (because logistical simplicity saves more than the reduced bill of materials) and pulled from the online catalog so that you have to go to a showroom (remember when they were going to dump those?) or call on the phone to order one.

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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Post by dragonwriter »

ABeeSea wrote: post #16
samcampbell wrote: post #2

>> Please note, customers who choose leasing over owning will not have the option to purchase their car at the end of the lease, because with full autonomy coming in the future via an over-the-air software update, we plan to use those vehicles in the Tesla ride-hailing network.

There is no way any of these model 3s end up in an autonomous ride share. Especially with only cameras and no LIDAR. I guess it does give them cover for not offering the option to buy at the end of the lease. Wouldn’t be surprised if they reverse this in 2-3 years.

> There is no way any of these model 3s end up in an autonomous ride share. Especially with only cameras and no LIDAR. I

They could retrofit hardware at the end of the lease when they reclaim the vehicles.

OTOH, I'm skeptical about Tesla having an autonomous ride sharing network to use them in when they come off lease.

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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Post by dragonwriter »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #47
bob_theslob646 wrote: post #35

What's incredibly interesting is that you are required to put a minimum of a $3000 dollar down payment. What was also interesting is that you forgo your right to buy back the car if you lease it, which is also odd.

Doesn't that make it a rental instead of a lease

The only reason “rental” and “lease” aren't the synonyms they usually are in auto land is because “rental” is used when the period is very short term, and “lease” is used for a period, generally, of a few years.

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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Post by mattbreeden »

usaphp wrote: post #52
tschwimmer wrote: post #21

I think the title of this submission should be changed to 'Tesla removes 35k Model 3 option' or similar. Their cheapest option is now a bit under 40k USD because they're including autopilot as standard.

Out of all of the people I know who own tesla, I have yet to meet anyone who bought one without autopilot. I don't understand why would you decide to purchase tesla over other electric cars if it was not for autopilot. If you want electric without autopilot - there are better options than tesla, so maybe the reason why they removed it was because a vast majority of people were purchasing the autopilot model, and offe…

I want one for its' safety ratings. I would buy it without autopilot.

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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Post by jonfw »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #56
jedberg wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The linked page says "As a result, Model 3 Standard will now be a software-limited version of the Standard Plus, and we are taking it off the online ordering menu, which just means that to get it, customers will need to call us or visit any one of the several hundred Tesla stores."

So they can pressure you in to spending more.

"we can't actually afford to make a 35000 car, but Elon promised it, so we are going to attempt to prove him right by just software-limiting a more expensive car and than hoping nobody buys it so we don't lose money"

How I imagine some meeting at Tesla went when they decided this was a legitimate solution.

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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Post by njharman »

ksherlock wrote: post #24
hhs wrote: post #9

According to the website, it looks like a Model 3 base (i.e., with Standard Plus Rear-Wheel Drive; Solid Black Paint; 18" Aero Wheels; All Black Partial Premium Interior; Autopilot) would have a purchase price of $39,500. This would have an estimated lease payment of $504/month, with $3,000 down, 36 months, 10,000 miles. And then estimated savings would be added depending on one's respective EV state rebates. At the…

If you expand the lease details, it's $3000 downpayment but $4199 due at signing. plus taxes and fees.

What people are willing to pay for cars amazes me. Esp to rent a car they don't own. $4199 is $1399 more than I paid for (at police surplus) the 2011 car I've had for a few years. It costs me significantly less than $500/mo to operate and repair. The 2007 before, cost less and lasted 5 years before I wrecked it. I have the money, I earn more than $200k/yr, I just the value/cost for new cars is just not worth it.
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