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Laws against lies: Asian governments are trying to curb fake news

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Re: Laws against lies: Asian governments are trying to curb fake news

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> It's not wise to give up permanent rights to solve a current (and perhaps temporary) problem. It's also not wise to let a problem fester because you're too unwilling to take any action against it (or all the actions you're willing to take are ineffective half-measures). In this case, I think the best solutions are quite a bit more radical than many powerful people (and their followers) are willing to contemplate, s…

You are saying that lying online is a problem so severe that it requires solutions too radical to contemplate?

> You are saying that lying online is a problem so severe that it requires solutions too radical to contemplate?

"Lying online" is your characterization, not mine. Fake news isn't merely "lying online."

And the solution I was advocating was pretty radical: a massive breakup of the tech platforms and social networks that make widespread fake news dissemination much more practical than it ever was.

Re: Laws against lies: Asian governments are trying to curb fake news

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are saying that lying online is a problem so severe that it requires solutions too radical to contemplate?

> You are saying that lying online is a problem so severe that it requires solutions too radical to contemplate? "Lying online" is your characterization, not mine. Fake news isn't merely "lying online." And the solution I was advocating was pretty radical: a massive breakup of the tech platforms and social networks that make widespread fake news dissemination much more practical than it ever was.

When you said "radical" I thought you were going to suggest re-education camps or something.

So if you aren't going to criminalize lying, what exactly are we arguing about? I am saying we shouldn't trade away rights -- are you saying that we should trade away rights? If so, which ones?

Re: Laws against lies: Asian governments are trying to curb fake news

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Given most Asian governments' preference for strict and harsh governance this is very concerning.

That's a pretty broad generalisation over a lot of countries that constitute Asia. Japan and Korea for example are consistently ranked above many west european countries in terms of freedom [1]. And many asian countries are at about the middle in these rankings. [1] https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index-new

South Korea threatened its citizens in Canada with punishments if they partake in a legal activity outside their borders.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/23/world/asia/cannabis-canad...

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