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Sweden Wants to Revive Europe’s Overnight Trains

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Re: Sweden Wants to Revive Europe’s Overnight Trains

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There are still occasionally passport checks at EU borders.

With the migration crisis, spot checks have been introduced at a few select crossings, but that still leaves plenty of possible train routes within Schengen where the authorities are not concerned about checking for migrants.

I've also seen it done for drugs on the Swiss border (this was on a night train actually) and twice at Berlin airports. They're rare but still happen.

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I take this train 3-4 times a year going from stockholm-luleå and it's great. You can get a 6 person cabin when travelling in a company of 4 which is great when you have small kids. This way you a whole cabin for them be pains without disturbing anybody else and it's much more of an adventure and much more cosy. I would love to have more good alternatives to travel by night trains because I really dislike airports and flying. One of the problems is that it's much more expensive to travel by train than the flying alternative.

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If you choose a 6 person sleeper car, you can't really expect much. It's a bit like a hostel - you choose it because it's cheap, not because you expect to get proper rest. To me, the 140EUR would be very much worth a private room, bathroom, and shower. It's travel + hotel, or some decent approximation. If you booked other forms of travel and an overnight hotel, you'd surely spend as much money and more time.

> a private room, bathroom, and shower What trains have you found that offer this? As an American unaccustomed to such trains, I'd be super interested to try them.

ÖBB Nightjet runs trains with that option, some pictures here: https://www.nightjet.com/en/ausstattung/reisekategorien/schl...

Re: Sweden Wants to Revive Europe’s Overnight Trains

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Too bad I can't read WSJ, so I can't verify what they're saying. However, I haven't had much luck finding overnight trains here. It used to be that many existed and were popular, but they started disappearing and now few routes still have overnight options.

If this helps... "In Europe alone, several new affordable options have materialized too, running more utilitarian services (no guided excursions, just overnight schedules). In 2017, the United Kingdom’s Great Western Railway (GWR) relaunched the Night Riviera, traveling between London and Cornwall, one of England’s sunniest corners. Also in 2017, Italy’s Trenitalia-owned Thello debuted new sleeper cars with en suite…

"Relaunched", at least for the two British trains, seems to mean they refurbished the carriages and issued a press release.

I used both of these trains as a student (late 2000s), so I'm not convinced that they weren't affordable before the relaunch.

Re: Sweden Wants to Revive Europe’s Overnight Trains

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> a private room, bathroom, and shower What trains have you found that offer this? As an American unaccustomed to such trains, I'd be super interested to try them.

> > a private room, bathroom, and shower > What trains have you found that offer this? As an American unaccustomed to such trains, I'd be super interested to try them. Just FYI, we have those in America on Amtrak long-distance trains; the Bedroom and Bedroom Suite (on both Viewliners and Superliners) have these features, as does the Accessible Bedroom on Viewliners. Roomettes don't have the shower (or the bathroom, o…

Awesome, TIL! I live in Boston and have only traveled to New York often, but maybe I'll try a longer route sometime. :)

Re: Sweden Wants to Revive Europe’s Overnight Trains

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It's just like a year ago that SJ tried to kill off the Malmö-Stockholm sleeper. I believe that this will work out when I see it.

I've read that travel on the Malmö-Stockholm sleeper is on the rise, especially by business travelers. Unfortunately I can find the source, but I think it was covered in SvD. I often travel Malmö-Stockholm for work, but quite often I'm not able to get a ticket because it's sold out.

Re: Sweden Wants to Revive Europe’s Overnight Trains

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I just plugged those two cities into the Deutsche Bahn website, and can now buy a ticket for a train leaving Stockholm in 8 hours (6:25 local time). 2 transfers (although routes exist with only one), 11:37 travel time. Saver fare still available: 99,90 € (regular would be 225 €). And it's not the only connection tomorrow. That said, your point somewhat stands: it really depends on the route if good options are availa…

Just plugged it in to SJ.se (Swedish rail). Doesn’t even have Hamburg as a selection. So I need to somehow know that Deutsche Bahn ofers the search capability. True two to three train changes, 90 to 220 euro. I guess I’ll use bahn.de from now on (and learn some German :) )

Interesting that they don't support that at all, but yes, getting the data (and more importantly, the ability to book) shared across companies and network has been annoyingly slow and incomplete.

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I was disappointed when I checked if it was possible to do Paris-Warsaw by night train. I imagined entering the train at 5pm, eating something, watching a movie and waking up in Paris in the morning. It sounded much better to me than spending an actual day commuting to/from far away airports and waiting in queues. Unfortunately such train does not exist, but neither does the platform that would allow searching and bo…

Warsaw on a warm summer evening. The sun is setting and there is a beautiful sky above the equally beautiful city. You relax into you sleeper cabin, and gaze out of the window waiting for the train to depart. 'Such a friendly city. Beautiful country.' you think to yourself. The train pulls out of the station. You watch the countryside pass as the night turns dark. You go to sleep. - You wake up at Gare du Nord. At le…

This sounds like something from '80 days'

Re: Sweden Wants to Revive Europe’s Overnight Trains

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I just plugged those two cities into the Deutsche Bahn website, and can now buy a ticket for a train leaving Stockholm in 8 hours (6:25 local time). 2 transfers (although routes exist with only one), 11:37 travel time. Saver fare still available: 99,90 € (regular would be 225 €). And it's not the only connection tomorrow. That said, your point somewhat stands: it really depends on the route if good options are availa…

Just plugged it in to SJ.se (Swedish rail). Doesn’t even have Hamburg as a selection. So I need to somehow know that Deutsche Bahn ofers the search capability. True two to three train changes, 90 to 220 euro. I guess I’ll use bahn.de from now on (and learn some German :) )

The best option should have one change, since there are direct trains from Stockholm to Copenhagen, and from Copenhagen to Hamburg (this train goes on the ferry). I would expect an additional change in Malmoe could reduce the cost and increase the time.

If you search for "now", it's 22:52, so you may get odd connections as the journey planner tries to make an overnight journey.

Re: Sweden Wants to Revive Europe’s Overnight Trains

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Swedish railways have been staggeringly mismanaged and neglected since the 1990s. I wouldn't be surprised if they're one of the worst managed railway systems in the entirety of what used to be known as the developed world.

But it would be wonderful to have them restored and have international overnight services added. Hoping, with some skepticism, that the politics translate to reality here.

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