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Fish oil supplements linked to prostate cancer (2013)

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Re: Fish oil supplements linked to prostate cancer (2013)

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Keep in mind that this does not mean you have a 70% chance of getting prostate cancer if you take fish oil supplements. Based on this[0], it's roughly an increase from about 0.02% chance to about 0.034% chance (given no other information to base your risk on) [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2706483/

My understanding was that basically every man will, if they live long enough, have some cancerous cells in their prostate. The main risk seems to be going from "so slow growing you die of old age first" to "fast enough growing it becomes a problem", unless I am horribly mistaken.

One pathologist I happen to know, says the chances of finding cancer cells in your prostate is about the same as your age: 50 -> 50% chance, 60 -> 60%.

Re: Fish oil supplements linked to prostate cancer (2013)

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The study in question does not link fish oil supplements to cancer. It correlates (with no clear evidence of causality) high blood levels of fatty acids with actual cases of prostate cancer. It is speculated that for at least some of the subjects, the high levels of fatty acids may have come from supplements.

FTA: "It is worth bearing in mind that this study did not assess participants’ diet and use of supplements. Researchers measured blood levels of fatty acids and analysed the association with prostate cancer risk. However, it is likely that the very high levels of fatty acids found in some participants’ blood came from supplements."

Re: Fish oil supplements linked to prostate cancer (2013)

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If one wanted omega-3s of the DHA/EPA variety, there's algae oil. It's commonly available as a supplement from many of the same companies that produce fish oil supplements.

What’s the mercury level

Zero.

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The article does not talk about alternatives. A great alternative for Omega-3s are ground flax seeds, one tablespoon a day mixed for example in your oatmeal is enough - https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/omega-3-fatty-acids Also for the derived DHA/EPA, there are pollutant-free alternatives based on algae oil.

just eat fish, shellfish, etc?

Fish don’t make omega 3 oils, they ingest them from algae. So you can just cut out the middle fish and get them from algae yourself, in the form of algae oil supplements.

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I worked in a lab that was studying prostate cancer for a summer internship, and most of our samples came from young men who died in motorcycle accidents. They found that a majority of the samples had some presence of benign tumors, but it only really becomes noticeable once malignant tumors develop. I don't know how representative the samples were of the entire population - one theory was that our young motorcycle s…

Young, and dead motorcyclists. Young male motorcyclist is the definition of testosterone-fueled lethality. (I grew out of sportbikes after two good friends died.)

I'm sorry about your friends. My dad has lost at least one, been hit no fewer than 5 times (none his fault), and gone down one other time (lowsided at Deal's Gap). Miraculously he is still alive. This post probably makes him sound much more reckless than he really is. He is the most cautious person I know, probably due to these experiences.

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It's like the whole thing with vitamin supplements. Unless you are actually deficient in one of them, taking them isn't going to do much for you, and in some cases might actually cause you harm. It's like fertiliser on a field, after a certain point the plants can't use any more and it just runs off to the rivers. Vitamin C is a good one for that, I seem to remember reading that at best taking large doses just means…

Also risk of kidney stones.

Did not know about that one. Another reason not to waste my money :)

Re: Fish oil supplements linked to prostate cancer (2013)

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just eat fish, shellfish, etc?

Fish don’t make omega 3 oils, they ingest them from algae. So you can just cut out the middle fish and get them from algae yourself, in the form of algae oil supplements.

well the omega 3 to omega 6 ratio is the point of taking O6 How do you know how much O3 you need? So O6 is in plant-oils, how many O3 Capsules do you need to eat with your salad if you put olive Oil on it? Fish and shellfish already have the perfect ratio, unless you cook them in plant oils.
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