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Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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What about allowing burqas, but requiring a "license plate" to be affixed?

Serious comment: We all carry around a license plate almost all the time - your phone. The data harvested by your phone (all of which is accessible to authorities) provides a complete history of you (ref. intended), where you've been, who you've met, and a proxy for what you're thinking about. How long before it's mandatory to carry one?

Probably soon. If only because of digital payments pretty much phasing out cash.

Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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Here's a pet peeve of mine: The critique of increasing mass surveillance focuses too much on technological problems and abuses by individual humans. A fully-functioning, automated surveillance society with minimal potential for abuse by individual police etc. would be much worse than the partially-working systems we have now. A surveillance society is the antithesis of a free, democratic society. The underlying assum…

can a democratic society vote itself into a dictatorship? what if some citizens want to subvert democracy and liberal social norms, but do so democratically? democracy is a discussion of ideas. it is your job to convince people that freedom is advantageous to global governance or that they can be combined. with freedom you will get fracture and economic decline, conflict and instability. with global governance you wi…

A democracy in theory can do anything if the sole description is democratic choice.

However in practice you have constitutions and inalienable rights which would prevent a dictatorship from being voted in. Unless of course you everyone involved is okay with breaking the law to gain control.

Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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The self checkout lines in walmart and target have a HD camera right in your face. I have always found these disturbing, they aren't even looking at what I'm buying. Do you guys think they are using facial recognition on these streams?

I cover these up with a bag before getting close to being in view...

Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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I agree with you completely; I opt out of the scanners at the airport every time on that very principle alone. But, I would also assert that most people would not agree that " we have to hide ".

Tried that once. Got the German shepherd scanner instead.

Where was that? I've only ever experienced the "advanced patdown".

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Here's a pet peeve of mine: The critique of increasing mass surveillance focuses too much on technological problems and abuses by individual humans. A fully-functioning, automated surveillance society with minimal potential for abuse by individual police etc. would be much worse than the partially-working systems we have now. A surveillance society is the antithesis of a free, democratic society. The underlying assum…

> legislation and law enforcement exists to modify incentives in cases where altruism, self-interest and a sense of social responsibility are insufficient to keep order.

Here's an argument I've read many times.

Within a few decades technological advances might bring us to a point where a handful of people can cause truly extraordinary destruction. Modern law enforcement and intelligence is not designed to deal with damage capabilities on that scale. If we want the society to remain free of overwhelming surveillance, we must hope that another mechanism will emerge to counter that risk.

What do you think such a "social preservation" mechanism might look like?

Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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It's not just illegal, I believe it's a felony in my state.

Except on Halloween? What about on your way to a masquerade party?

Carrying open containers of alcohol isn't legal to from a party either.

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Tried that once. Got the German shepherd scanner instead.

Where was that? I've only ever experienced the "advanced patdown".

This was on the way from our hometown in the midwest to points Scandinavian. While this was going on, my daughter got the "advanced patdown," and she still mentions it when I bring up traveling :( Went from loving it to not interested.
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