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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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It's so shady that their advertised price includes some hypothetical "potential gas savings", and the actual price is behind a tiny "learn more" link.

The actual price is literally right there on the screen. Potential gas savings is still a huge selling point to the market they're addressing (maybe not for you or I). I'm not sure this qualifies as "shady" when everything is displayed within the same viewport.

The actual price is one place on the screen at the bottom in white text on grey with the fake prices on the prominently on the side in bold. Its shady.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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post #31
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experiences with other cars are the opposite. I've seen a lot of advertised prices that are not really what they want to charge you when you make it to the store to purchase.

Funnily enough, the listed MSRP usually much higher than actual dealership price.

That's just so they can give you the illusion of some kind of savings.

It'd be like if I got to go in to a hiring offer and was able to demand a million dollars a year so that any lower salary seemed like a value.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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I own a TM3, Long Range, Premium Interior, Enhanced auto pilot. The best part of this announcement for LR owners is that the range will be bumped to 325 miles for new and existing cars!

that out of the way, well it is about time. it is nice to see, I still don't agree with how they present the cost on their website but I am at the point that I think it will take regulations to fix that. Telsa seems immune to criticism on that front. I am in the camp of, truth in advertising.

Now, the value of the premium interior took a sizable hit. the remaining advantages are heated rear seats, more speakers for the stereo, satellite maps with live traffic, streaming media, and the internet browser.

so my question is, did I pay for life of the car satellite traffic and streaming? there have been hints that this was not the case. the rear heated seats and extra speakers certainly don't make up $2500 in value but if there is lifetime satellite maps with traffic that would be a selling point.

on a side note, the other area besides advertising pricing that Tesla needs to be called out on is providing parts to repair existing cars. The nightmare still exists for many owners with some being without their car for over six months.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real price is at the bottom of the page without having to click through, but yes, it's still really shady. No other car OEM does this.

How many car OEMs push misleading lease prices by increasing upfront cash to make the monthly payment seem lower? Only $LOW/Month* * After large amount upfront.

others doing it doesn't justify their doing it.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

#68
post #7

It's so shady that their advertised price includes some hypothetical "potential gas savings", and the actual price is behind a tiny "learn more" link.

Its shady, but its not hypothetical, having owned a Model S for 4 years, I’ve saved a ton on fuel.

If its your first car it makes absolutely no sense.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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post #7

It's so shady that their advertised price includes some hypothetical "potential gas savings", and the actual price is behind a tiny "learn more" link.

Just did some napkin math and the potential gas savings number seems reasonable. (I expected it to be inflated and still think it's a dark pattern to include it.) Model 3: (50 kwh battery) * (0.166 $/kwh for Los Angeles residential power) / (220 mi range) = 3.8 $/100 mi of fuel Average ICE sedan: (3.00 $/gal average regular gas in LA) /(30 mi/gal) = 10 $/100 mi of fuel If you drive 12000 mi in a year, it comes to abo…

>That drops a ton if you would have purchased a Prius or other hybrid though.

Nicely done math. Based on Toyota etc.’s marketing claims I guess. In which case it might be around $6/100 miles (guesstimate) versus Tesla $3.8/100 miles.

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