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Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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Re: Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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Milk is for infants anyway, whichever species.

My milk adapted genes disagree. If I wasn't suppose to eat it my ancestors wouldn't have adapted/evolved the ability to eat an unlimited amount of dairy without a problem.

My lactose intolerance disagrees.

Re: Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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Fried spiced bugs are tasty. Raw bugs not so much. I liked fried scorpio. Raw cricket, taste like crap. I guess if you take grass, deep fry it and put cummin on it, it tastes ok too. You can eat a cucumber, a carrot, an apple or a steak raw. Even things you need to cook, such as wheet or potatoes, taste alrigh by just being boiled in water.

You can eat potatoes raw too. The human digestive system evolved in the Paleolithic to easily digest starchy roots like the potato. Besides meat, starchy roots were a favorite. Wheat btw is a Neolithic phenomenon. And there is some proof that grains are toxic and that some of those toxins aren’t annihilated with cooking. Grains being toxic is an evolutionary trait meant to discourage mammals and insects from eating t…

If it takes decades to notice the effects of a toxin, it's not very potent and there certainly isn't going to be much of an evolutionary drive against it.

Re: Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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post #59

We don't eat bugs because nobody has yet developed a machine that can affordably extract the meat. We don't eat cattle whole. When we make burgers, we leave out the skin and poop and horns and teeth. Bugs aren't any different.

If you were 1000x the size of a cow, you probably could (and would) eat it whole, as your teeth would mash through bone and skin without a problem.

Re: Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Milk is for infants anyway, whichever species.

My milk adapted genes disagree. If I wasn't suppose to eat it my ancestors wouldn't have adapted/evolved the ability to eat an unlimited amount of dairy without a problem.

Good mutations can be random. Being able to drink milk doesn't have any harmful effects, so it stays. Most of humans are lactose intolerant. 99% of mammals are lactose intolerant. But all mammal infants drink milk. Drinking milk might be beneficial, but it's more likely a random mutation that wasn't selected against since it had no harm and gave a little more calory source to humans.

Re: Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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post #63
post #59

We don't eat bugs because nobody has yet developed a machine that can affordably extract the meat. We don't eat cattle whole. When we make burgers, we leave out the skin and poop and horns and teeth. Bugs aren't any different.

If you were 1000x the size of a cow, you probably could (and would) eat it whole, as your teeth would mash through bone and skin without a problem.

I could, but I wouldn't, because those parts taste bad. The poop is particularly awful.

Re: Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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It's not about being squeamish. It's about having better options.

My ancestors (up to a generation ago) lived in a place that was a frozen wasteland for half the year (so no bugs for all that time) and basically subsisted off grains, cabbage in various stages of decomposition and products of animals that could actually survive long enough to be useful.

As efficient as it seems today to be able to farm crickets, for farmers a few generations ago it would have been much easier to simply keep a few cows, pigs, and plant things than waste time trying to catch crickets and grasshoppers who can't even survive the winter. There's a reason the cultures who do eat bugs do so opportunistically and don't waste a ton of resources on it.

Re: Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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I was eating out with an "ideologically motivated" vegetarian friend of mine, who doesn't eat meat because it's "ethically wrong", and he ordered crabs. I challenged him (jokingly, but ready to argue my point on aesthetic grounds): "Crabs are just giant bugs, and you're a vegetarian, so why do you eat bugs?" He replied "I eat bugs because they're the enemy!"

> vegetarian friend of mine ... he ordered crabs Not a vegetarian.

That is literally the entire point of the whole comment that they made you pedantic ding dong.

Re: Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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Because they’re gross looking and honestly don’t taste that great (speaking from experience). It’s not rocket science.

There are many parts of the world where bugs are considered to appear and taste palatable. Some are delicacies. The idea that all bugs are gross is largely due to unfamiliarity. Most unfamiliar foods are considered gross the first time someone tries them (as anyone with kids can attest). With that said, some of the large ants commonly eaten in southern Mexico are extremely bitter. Not my favorite for sure.

>The idea that all bugs are gross is largely due to unfamiliarity.

I'm really, really skeptical of this idea. One of the most interesting phobias is Trypophobia, fear of irregular patterns or of small holes/bumps. It's not really a fear, ... but more of an evolutionary response. Humans are good at recognizing patterns and irregular holes/bumps tend to mean disease or "something gross and dangerous probably laid eggs here". Those things tend to be insects, or bugs, or whatever.

As an aside, eating bugs has become all the rage with some of my more culturally eccentric friends. I don't really know why, since they can definitely afford actual food and seem to engage in this as some kind of signal of cultural experience or "competency".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

Re: Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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I encourage you to research what percentage of bugs are actually edible and a reasonable source of protein in northern climates. And then research the eating habits in regions where the percentage of edible and protein rich insects is significantly higher. Within there, I imagine you will find an answer.

Also, insect are hard to find in the winter, and much harder to raise at a reasonable quantity than cows and chickens. And if your 1000 sheeps escape in the wild, you have a chance to get some back, and you will be able to protect you fields against them. It's practical. Plusyou don't have to care about venom when cookinh lamb.

You should check out the industrial-scale cockroach farming going on in China. Mostly hermetically sealed buildings; you can put them in cold places, you pump food waste in one side, and get sterile, protein-rich cockroach out the other side.

No comment on the taste, but you can do similar things for a variety of non-cockroach insects that may have different taste / texture / emotional connections.

If someone makes a tasty product, I'll give it a shot. Until then, I am waiting for the vat-grown beef.

Re: Why Don’t More Humans Eat Bugs? (2018)

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post #46

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we should all eat whale, since they're related to deer. The main reason we don't eat whale is that they're going extinct in the wild and are impossible to farm (neither which are true about insects). Before we realized that large scale whaling was a bad idea we ate a lot more whale.

In Western Civ., was whale eaten, or was whale used primarily for it's whale oil? In places where it is/was eaten does that happen sustainably? (Japan excluded...)

In Western Civ., was whale eaten

My understanding is that it used to be quite normal in Europe back when whales were plentiful and relatively easy to catch off the French and Spanish coasts. However by the end of 17th-century whale stocks there had completely collapsed due to overfishing, and it fell out of favour as food. In Europe it's really only Norway, Iceland and Greenland that continued eating whale into modern times and even there it's popularity has dropped dramatically since the 80s.

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