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The rise of alternative milks

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Re: The rise of alternative milks

#61
I was meeting a client yesterday at their office, they offered me coffee and asked me if I wanted milk, then whether I'd like oat or regular. I said regular (usually drink oat but was somehow preoccupied) and the response was "yea, fortunately that's still available".

To me that was a pretty striking example of how the realities of what climage change is going to push us towards are sinking in.

Re: The rise of alternative milks

#62

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You can stand just about anything, just have to give it a chance. I’m reminded of a decade or two back when I switched to diet drinks, though I preferred the sugared. Now sugar soda tastes horrible. In the 80s we moved to low-fat milk, shortly after whole tasted horrible. How did I ever drink this? Take a month off then try a unsweetened coconut/almond blend, get over the hump, wait two months. You’ll be surprised at…

I ate a lot of milk and cheese my entire life. Once I stopped, it was shocking how the aroma of dairy changed for me. Now it smells like old fingernails and skin, which makes perfect sense.

> Now it smells like old fingernails and skin, which makes perfect sense.

Doesn't make 'perfect sense' to me. Maybe poetic sense if you're coming from a certain point of view.

Re: The rise of alternative milks

#63

Using “milk” in the name of something doesn’t make an “alternative milk” in any way that doesn’t apply to any other drinkable liquid.

It’s pure marketing, where the reality would be “juice” if we’re being charitable. In a lot of cases it’s water with a hint of X, and a lot of added sugar. All told drinking a lot of anything other than water is probably a bad move, but evidence suggests that if you’re not lactose intolerant, milk is a healthier choice for what you put on cereal. All things being equal, my major issue with alternative “milk” isn’t th…

Well. Regular milk is also mostly water.

Re: The rise of alternative milks

#64
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It's not marketed that way, but Soylent seems kind of similar in the bland-but-supposedly-healthy drink niche?

All of these products are some mush plus sugar. Soylent is expensive old people food supplement.

All of these things are just ways to extend the dominance of big agriculture, dressed up in various healthy use cases.

Re: The rise of alternative milks

#65

Using “milk” in the name of something doesn’t make an “alternative milk” in any way that doesn’t apply to any other drinkable liquid.

It’s pure marketing, where the reality would be “juice” if we’re being charitable. In a lot of cases it’s water with a hint of X, and a lot of added sugar. All told drinking a lot of anything other than water is probably a bad move, but evidence suggests that if you’re not lactose intolerant, milk is a healthier choice for what you put on cereal. All things being equal, my major issue with alternative “milk” isn’t th…

Cow's milk is mostly water.

As for alternative milks being a fad, it's a fad that's more than a thousand years old -- for example, almond milk was important in Europe for meatless Fridays and during Lent. I'm not sure who "should know better" when it comes to religious doctrine affecting food choices.

Re: The rise of alternative milks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s pure marketing, where the reality would be “juice” if we’re being charitable. In a lot of cases it’s water with a hint of X, and a lot of added sugar. All told drinking a lot of anything other than water is probably a bad move, but evidence suggests that if you’re not lactose intolerant, milk is a healthier choice for what you put on cereal. All things being equal, my major issue with alternative “milk” isn’t th…

Cow's milk is mostly water. As for alternative milks being a fad, it's a fad that's more than a thousand years old -- for example, almond milk was important in Europe for meatless Fridays and during Lent. I'm not sure who "should know better" when it comes to religious doctrine affecting food choices.

You’re the second person to latch on to a single sentence fragment, unfortunately without the context about sugar and protein content. As far as religion goes, what percentage of current “alt-milk” consumption do you think is religiously motivated? A rounding error? A rounding error of a rounding error? Less?

If you wanted to focus on a single point I made, I’d suggest: All told drinking a lot of anything other than water is probably a bad move....

Re: The rise of alternative milks

#67
I've completely switched to soy milk. It tastes a little different to cow milk but after a few cups of tea over a week I didn't notice anymore. Now cow milk tastes strange to me. Soy milk also lasts around a year unopened so you can save time buying it in bulk as a plus.

People need to stop expecting replacements to taste 100% identical to what they're use to and give their tastebuds some time to adapt. Same with meat alternatives. It's an extremely unrealistic and pretty silly requirement in my opinion especially if you're concerned with climate change.

Re: The rise of alternative milks

#68
post #53

I have lactose intolerance, I am allergic to tree nuts, have an intolerance to legumes, and have yet to find a certified gluten-free coconut milk. Let me know.

If you are lactose, nut and legume intolerent, why is gluten free important?

I have been diagnosed with celiac disease by blood test and biopsy.

Re: The rise of alternative milks

#69
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The two reasons would be Celiac disease, or pseudoscience. Since there is no reason that someone with Celiac couldn’t also be lactose, nut and legume intolerant, it could be that.

I assumed thay given they called our lactose nut and legume allergies that if they were celiac,they would have mentioned.

I was just being unclear, sorry.

Re: The rise of alternative milks

#70

I have lactose intolerance, I am allergic to tree nuts, have an intolerance to legumes, and have yet to find a certified gluten-free coconut milk. Let me know.

have you tried oat milk?

I used to drink it and like the flavor, but haven’t tried it since I have been diagnosed with celiac. Oats are very commonly contaminated with gluten, so it would have to be lab-tested (certified gluten free) every batch. Then, there is a question whether some people with celiac react to oat protein.
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