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Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by brobdingnagians »

vishnu_ks wrote: post #46

I don't understand why Firefox doesn't include an option to download the .deb package instead of tar file for Ubuntu and Debian during release announcements. The market share is already shrinking and why make it harder for people to install or upgrade Firefox? Chrome does it. Why can't Firefox do that as well?

This brings up an interesting point about releasing software in general. If you spend huge amounts of time programming cool things and tuning every last knob, but then it is difficult for your average user to find out how to install and start to see all the cool things you've produced, when it would take far less time to just make an easy installer than it took you to make all the cool things, then there needs to be some balance in usability. The pipeline to getting the software in front of someone is sometimes more important than adding new cool features. A basic thing that is easy to use will get more adoption than a mind-blowingly awesome thing that only sys-admins can figure out how to use.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by swebs »

vishnu_ks wrote: post #46

I don't understand why Firefox doesn't include an option to download the .deb package instead of tar file for Ubuntu and Debian during release announcements. The market share is already shrinking and why make it harder for people to install or upgrade Firefox? Chrome does it. Why can't Firefox do that as well?

Why not just use apt? It's already updated in the repository.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by ForHackernews »

shaklee3 wrote: post #56

I remember about a year or two ago, there was a lot of press on HN about a new Firefox engine that made it extremely fast. Ever since then, I've only seen negative comments about Firefox. Did that just not pan out as much as people had expected?

HN users are just natural grumblers. Firefox is very fast these days.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by vezycash »

pdpi wrote: post #17
darkpuma wrote: post #5

>Firefox will now warn you when closing a window (regardless of whether you have automatic session restore enabled for restart). To whoever is responsible for pushing this change through: Thank you.

Chrome's "hold cmd-Q to quit" popup is just about perfect in that regard.

I'm hearing about this feature for the first time - and I frequent HN and other tech sites!

For pop ups, automatic or it doesn't exist.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by epage »

shaklee3 wrote: post #56

I remember about a year or two ago, there was a lot of press on HN about a new Firefox engine that made it extremely fast. Ever since then, I've only seen negative comments about Firefox. Did that just not pan out as much as people had expected?

I've only seen people complain about WebRender on Mac. Looks like the cause is known and looking to be fixed this year [1].

[1] See "Adding support for native OS compositors to WebRender" on https://pcwalton.github.io/2018/12/07/plans-for-2019.html

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by davrosthedalek »

pdpi wrote: post #17
darkpuma wrote: post #5

>Firefox will now warn you when closing a window (regardless of whether you have automatic session restore enabled for restart). To whoever is responsible for pushing this change through: Thank you.

Chrome's "hold cmd-Q to quit" popup is just about perfect in that regard.

I hate that thing! Is there a way to switch it off? (I get it, it can be useful. It's my personal preference, and showing it is a sane default. Less intrusive than a (modal) pop-up for sure. But I like software which I can set up to my liking.)

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by erichurkman »

pdpi wrote: post #17
darkpuma wrote: post #5

>Firefox will now warn you when closing a window (regardless of whether you have automatic session restore enabled for restart). To whoever is responsible for pushing this change through: Thank you.

Chrome's "hold cmd-Q to quit" popup is just about perfect in that regard.

I really wish this was standard across all apps on macOS. It's beautiful UX, and easily discoverable.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by ekianjo »

ForHackernews wrote: post #41
ekianjo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox as an organization does not get branding at all. They claim to be the champions on privacy and user freedom yet they keep breaking that image over and over again with unwanted ads, telemetry, and services you can't disable. I still use Firefox as my main browser, but I can't fathom how they come up with such poor decisions every single time.

Maybe if users were willing to pay for a browser, they wouldn't be so desperately scrambling around for non-Google revenue sources. They could try to offer some kind of "pay us to forgo marketing partnerships" deal, but I somehow doubt even most of the well-paid privacy advocates on HN would sign up.

Have they ever tried crowdfunding campaigns? I don't think so. Wikipedia seems to be doing fine with it. At least they should experiment with some ideas in that line and see what works.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by erichurkman »

davrosthedalek wrote: post #66
pdpi wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome's "hold cmd-Q to quit" popup is just about perfect in that regard.

I hate that thing! Is there a way to switch it off? (I get it, it can be useful. It's my personal preference, and showing it is a sane default. Less intrusive than a (modal) pop-up for sure. But I like software which I can set up to my liking.)

It's in the 'Chrome' menu. 'Warn before quitting'.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by lugg »

oosjc9a5 wrote: post #3

A question regarding the advertisements they show on the home page: https://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-640-is-now-showing-a-boo... Are these ads introduced with these updates, or does Firefox include a backdoor so the Mozilla Corporation can show whatever they want on your home page?

It's just like the new tab page in chrome on Android. But you can disable what content is shown in settings, including the ads.

Backdoor? Please.

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