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Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

#61

How is no one talking about https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/ These guys actually fix their bugs. It works on every database known to humans, and also does nearly everything DBeaver appears to do.

Perhaps, but DBeaver is free while Datagrid is not, in fact it is rather expensive at $199.

For many people, including me perhaps, something like DBeaver is good enough since it's free.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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post #61

How is no one talking about https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/ These guys actually fix their bugs. It works on every database known to humans, and also does nearly everything DBeaver appears to do.

Perhaps, but DBeaver is free while Datagrid is not, in fact it is rather expensive at $199. For many people, including me perhaps, something like DBeaver is good enough since it's free.

$90 individual

https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/buy/#edition=personal

But you're probably right.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

#64
I can't believe how hard it is to find a good database client tool that runs on Linux. I spent hours on Sunday looking for something that worked as well as pgadmin3. I don't prefer these Java tools that force you to manage JDBC drivers and usually share dated and cluttered UIs. Plus, I can't stand having to manage connections to each database instead of to each server. Let me connect to the server and then select my dB.

My notes:

  - Lists
  - https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_Clients
  - https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Community_Guide_to_PostgreSQL_GUI_Tools
  - Clients
  - Most clients are Java, which is a pain b/c
    - they require you to list the DB in the connection
    - JDBC drivers can not use a socket connection
    - UI isn’t great
  - Valentina Studio
    - Has free & pro ($199) versions
    - Was the easiest to get connected initially, but then found bug that showed it wasn’t using socket connection as expected.
  - Navicat
    - Linux version is a Wine app
  - RazorSQL ($100 / year)
    - Is a Java app
    - Not much different from SQL Workbench, just use that instead?
  - TeamSQL
    - Electron, AppImage
    - Wanted me to enter an email address just to use the software, became privacy concerned about how much stuff would get sent to their servers
  - DbVisualizer ($197, $69 renewal)
    - Java
    - Downloaded & tried it, typical java app
  - SQL Workbench/J (OSS)
    - Java
  - Datazenit
    - web based but still Java?
  - PgManage
    - too crude
  - JetBrains DataGrip ($199 / $159)
    - Java
  - PgAdmin3
    - has lots of errors when used with PostgreSQL 11
  - PgAdmin4
    - installed, couldn’t get past the splash screen which said it couldn’t find the application server
  - Sqlectron
    - Electron
    - Couldn’t get a DB connection to save
  - dbForge
    - Windows only
  - dbGlass
    - No longer developed
  - HeidiSQL
    - Windows only
  - DBeaver
    - OSS and enterprise version

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but DBeaver is free while Datagrid is not, in fact it is rather expensive at $199. For many people, including me perhaps, something like DBeaver is good enough since it's free.

$90 individual https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/buy/#edition=personal But you're probably right.

If you are a student it's free.

Also good tools are worth paying for, I have been a subscription user of their tools now for years.

I think it's like $199 for a subscription to the whole suite. If you are a dev (or work for someone who expects you to do dev work for pay) it's worthy spending a few of your coins on good tools.

I stare at these tools all darn day, and they rarely if ever crash. I don't regret moving away from Eclipse almost a decade ago, which used to devour all my system resources and crash and fail constantly.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

#68

How is no one talking about https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/ These guys actually fix their bugs. It works on every database known to humans, and also does nearly everything DBeaver appears to do.

The software is great but I would never buy it purely because of their business model.

There is absolutely no reason DataGrip needs to be a subscription service. There aren't any ongoing costs for customers to use it.

It should be a one-off purchase with optional support subscription, maybe requiring re-purchase at major version increments, not this bullshit where you need to maintain a subscription for a license on a binary program you already paid for and installed.

Feels as dodgy as Adobe turning Photoshop into a subscription service

Fuck these business models and the sales idiots who try to apply them to every single product

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

#69

How is no one talking about https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/ These guys actually fix their bugs. It works on every database known to humans, and also does nearly everything DBeaver appears to do.

The software is great but I would never buy it purely because of their business model. There is absolutely no reason DataGrip needs to be a subscription service. There aren't any ongoing costs for customers to use it. It should be a one-off purchase with optional support subscription, maybe requiring re-purchase at major version increments, not this bullshit where you need to maintain a subscription for a license on…

Just so you know, although not very clearly documented, yearly subscriptions include perpetual license for that specific version.

You can see it on the “buy” page.

It’s still less than ideal, but I pay yearly for their “all pack” product and I feel with the amount I use it I’ve gotten my money’s worth every year.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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post #64

I can't believe how hard it is to find a good database client tool that runs on Linux. I spent hours on Sunday looking for something that worked as well as pgadmin3. I don't prefer these Java tools that force you to manage JDBC drivers and usually share dated and cluttered UIs. Plus, I can't stand having to manage connections to each database instead of to each server. Let me connect to the server and then select my…

Despite being written in Java, DBeaver does let you connect to a server, then pick which database you wish to connect to.
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