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A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Post by JasonFruit »

jjoonathan wrote: post #60
ameister14 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the scenario is a rural hospital in peacetime. It happens routinely.

... because the rural hospital can't afford to hire enough surgeons to cover their shifts, because we don't train enough surgeons, because we overtrain surgeons, because everybody qualified to evaluate this has incentives to lobby for more training. Lack of training is a perfect scapegoat for any problem and increased training requirements create lucrative educational opportunities and decrease supply / increase pric…

I'm going to say, anecdotally, that I'm aware of surgeons I would hesitate to call overtrained.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Post by ameister14 »

jjoonathan wrote: post #60
ameister14 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the scenario is a rural hospital in peacetime. It happens routinely.

... because the rural hospital can't afford to hire enough surgeons to cover their shifts, because we don't train enough surgeons, because we overtrain surgeons, because everybody qualified to evaluate this has incentives to lobby for more training. Lack of training is a perfect scapegoat for any problem and increased training requirements create lucrative educational opportunities and decrease supply / increase pric…

Yep. That said, I don't believe charging them with manslaughter is the way to push back.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Post by aaron695 »

Just for the young ones who might be tempted to believe the trolls -

Pre internet we still had the AP (Associated Press), if this was real we would have heard about it and seen it (Which we didn't)

There's more to it than "it's not on Youtube because camcorder footage is pre-Youtube".

And the point is the "Rap Legend" bit.

Stokes will cause people to do strange things, maybe he might have chosen rap when he never would have before.

But the concept it gives you superpowers it wrong and dangerous, it does not ever happen. A 62 who suddenly raps will not be good.... but might be having fun.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Post by jjoonathan »

JasonFruit wrote: post #61
jjoonathan wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... because the rural hospital can't afford to hire enough surgeons to cover their shifts, because we don't train enough surgeons, because we overtrain surgeons, because everybody qualified to evaluate this has incentives to lobby for more training. Lack of training is a perfect scapegoat for any problem and increased training requirements create lucrative educational opportunities and decrease supply / increase pric…

I'm going to say, anecdotally, that I'm aware of surgeons I would hesitate to call overtrained.

Let's define "overtrained" to mean "we spent too much money on training" rather than "the training resulted in an excess of competence." I am sure the latter does happen occasionally, or even frequently, but I am also completely willing to believe that sometimes it... doesn't.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Post by jjoonathan »

ameister14 wrote: post #62
jjoonathan wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... because the rural hospital can't afford to hire enough surgeons to cover their shifts, because we don't train enough surgeons, because we overtrain surgeons, because everybody qualified to evaluate this has incentives to lobby for more training. Lack of training is a perfect scapegoat for any problem and increased training requirements create lucrative educational opportunities and decrease supply / increase pric…

Yep. That said, I don't believe charging them with manslaughter is the way to push back.

Oh, agreed. I suspect doing so would just exacerbate the supply/demand issue further.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Post by unknownkadath »

leesec wrote: post #17
carlob wrote: post #12

> He was tall and lean, ran six miles a day, and was a strict vegetarian. “I believe a physician should provide exemplary motivation to patients,” he once wrote. “I don’t smoke and have cut out all alcohol.” > “Sometimes I worked from 6 a.m. to 3 a.m.,” he recalled, adding that the pressures had cost him his first marriage. I don't understand how a medical doctor can fail to consider sleep deprivation and overworking…

Some doctors don't have a choice. My brother was on call this weekend and got called in Friday night at 10 P.M. and Saturday night at 2 A.M., then had to be back to work at 7 A.M. Sunday. Obviously sleep deprived, but there's nothing he specifically could do. This needs to change at an institutional level.

Coming from the nuclear industry, this sounds crazy, even compared to our outage culture.

NRC says that you can work up to 16 hours, then you MUST go home for 8. It takes some paperwork to get a one-time exception.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Post by elwell »

> “There was a famous guy in Italy who had what they called ‘Pinocchio syndrome,’” said Alice Flaherty, a joint associate professor of neurology and psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. “When he told a lie, he would have a seizure. He was crippled as a businessman.”

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Post by hobgoblin1234 »

diminoten wrote: post #37
xutopia wrote: post #3

I wished we could actually hear him in action but no... this is just words claiming he's a god of rhymes with nothing to show.

Why are there multiple comments claiming the article calls him good at rhyming?

Rap legend means what?

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Post by antidesitter »

darkerside wrote: post #52
carlob wrote: post #12

> He was tall and lean, ran six miles a day, and was a strict vegetarian. “I believe a physician should provide exemplary motivation to patients,” he once wrote. “I don’t smoke and have cut out all alcohol.” > “Sometimes I worked from 6 a.m. to 3 a.m.,” he recalled, adding that the pressures had cost him his first marriage. I don't understand how a medical doctor can fail to consider sleep deprivation and overworking…

Just to share another perspective, doctors, and especially surgeons, save lives by the hour. Every minute they're not working, they forsake compensation of course, but more saliently, they are letting people die. Wouldn't you feel at least a bit compelled to work the extra odd hours here and there?

> Wouldn't you feel at least a bit compelled to work the extra odd hours here and there?

Not if doing so raises the risk to patients to an unacceptable level.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Post by Terr_ »

darkerside wrote: post #52
carlob wrote: post #12

> He was tall and lean, ran six miles a day, and was a strict vegetarian. “I believe a physician should provide exemplary motivation to patients,” he once wrote. “I don’t smoke and have cut out all alcohol.” > “Sometimes I worked from 6 a.m. to 3 a.m.,” he recalled, adding that the pressures had cost him his first marriage. I don't understand how a medical doctor can fail to consider sleep deprivation and overworking…

Just to share another perspective, doctors, and especially surgeons, save lives by the hour. Every minute they're not working, they forsake compensation of course, but more saliently, they are letting people die. Wouldn't you feel at least a bit compelled to work the extra odd hours here and there?

"Penny-wise, pound-foolish."
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