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Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
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Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#62The GDPR has already resulted in quite a few websites simply refusing to serve the EU. Will this clinch it? Will the EU be cut off form the internet due to over-regulation that no one wants to put themselves at risk over?
I would love to be cut off from Facebook. Please do it now.
Too bad, gdpr actually makes facebook stronger..
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#63This wil change nothing that is not already in effect for most sites. Try to upload a movie to Youtube, it will be removed. But only when the owner/author complains or some automatic filter is triggered. There is also too much content to check and enforce it all.
Not most sites. In fact, youtube is somewhat the exception; they developed censoring capabilities only because their size made them too big of a target to dodge legal pressure.
There are bazillions of other sites who don’t (and often can’t) police anything of what they host unless they are threatened with litigation.
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#64In a weird way, this might be EU's strategy to finally deal significant damage to Google and Facebook, as this law will encourage development of alternatives on decentralized peer-to-peer technologies. However, I'm not sure if EU politicians are that smart...
yes, this could be called the "anti-google act" of 2019 ... google is basically the only company it applies to. facebook has never been a major venue for piracy (afaik?) so i don't think it even affects them much.
however, it is a good thing. youtube has always been a massive for-profit piracy operation, and they just license and pay the people who are big enough to threaten them. all small content creators get the shaft. even google search is mostly a form of piracy. taking other people's content and slapping ads on it.
google needs to die and it is nice to see the EU helping here.
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#65In a weird way, this might be EU's strategy to finally deal significant damage to Google and Facebook, as this law will encourage development of alternatives on decentralized peer-to-peer technologies. However, I'm not sure if EU politicians are that smart...
FAANG will be pissed but I doubt it really makes a dent. Their focus is Asia (has been since 2 decades now). Us Europeans are just a sleepy backwater of old people with lot of history which makes for nice tax havens and retirement homes.
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#66Bloody hell that's rather terrifying. After GDPR I was thinking Europe would be the bastion of the internet, now it looks like it's time to decentralise the internet completely. Which is going to surely have it's own issues I'm sure.
its own issues
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s not made by EU politicians, it’s made by a combination of lawyers, engineers and public administration majors. In many ways the EU is a functioning technocracy, and if you ever read through the actual EU documents it shows. They are almost always sound, they are also massively bureaucratic and around 90% longer than necessary, but I’ve never read through something that wasn’t sound. Disclaimer: I haven’t read up…
>the EU is a functioning technocracy, only it's not really functioning is it?
What do you see as not functioning in the EU?
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#68This wil change nothing that is not already in effect for most sites. Try to upload a movie to Youtube, it will be removed. But only when the owner/author complains or some automatic filter is triggered. There is also too much content to check and enforce it all.
YouTube has stated that if this passes, "EU residents are at risk of being cut off from videos that, in just the last month, they viewed more than 90bn times" – i.e. despite all the overblocking and mistakes, still too much slips through ContentID for them to take the risk of direct liability. https://youtube-creators.googleblog.com/2018/11/i-support-go...
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#69The GDPR has already resulted in quite a few websites simply refusing to serve the EU. Will this clinch it? Will the EU be cut off form the internet due to over-regulation that no one wants to put themselves at risk over?
GDPR caused some non EU media businesses to preemptively block EU users because their primary readership is not in the EU and their primary business model is abusing their users in ways that GDPR restricts.
GDPR did not really change the media landscape in the EU. Business as usual here. Mostly companies went through a brief period where they had to consult lawyers and expensive agencies on how to cover their asses. Mostly good things have started happening after that. Some companies that were doing technically unacceptable things under pre-GDPR legislation have now grudgingly stopped doing those things.
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#70Small companies won't have resources to create their own content filters.
Guess who is going to sell content-filter-as-a-service?