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Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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Pardon my ignorance but what did big bang theory got wrong?

Pardon the terminology, but I consider that show to be Nerd-Blackface. I'm not sure how else to describe it. I find how the show deals with anything technical to be an affront to intelligence in general.

"Nerd-minstrelsy" is a better term

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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This Venn diagram always gets me. https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8291744000/h3159FC59/

This chart holds only in the sense that the Kardashians play dumb caricatures of themselves. They may cater their brand to the lowest common denominator but they most certainly aren’t dumb themselves. They essentially parlayed Robert Kardashian’s friendship with OJ Simpson into a media empire; there is something to be said for how media savvy they are.

Unrelated, but this reminds me of a saying we have in Spain about our fascist ex-dictator Franco whenever someone claims he was dumb: Look, he was evil, not stupid.

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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Amazing anecdote from a 2016 New Yorker article on the show:

> During one visit to Google’s headquarters, in Mountain View, about six writers sat in a conference room with Astro Teller, the head of GoogleX, who wore a midi ring and kept his long hair in a ponytail. “Most of our research meetings are fun, but this one was uncomfortable,” Kemper told me....

> “He claimed he hadn’t seen the show, and then he referred many times to specific things that had happened on the show,” Kemper said. “His message was, ‘We don’t do stupid things here. We do things that actually are going to change the world, whether you choose to make fun of that or not.’ ” (Teller could not be reached for comment.)

> Teller ended the meeting by standing up in a huff, but his attempt at a dramatic exit was marred by the fact that he was wearing Rollerblades. He wobbled to the door in silence. “Then there was this awkward moment of him fumbling with his I.D. badge, trying to get the door to open,” Kemper said. “It felt like it lasted an hour. We were all trying not to laugh. Even while it was happening, I knew we were all thinking the same thing: Can we use this?” In the end, the joke was deemed “too hacky to use on the show.”

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/how-silicon-v...

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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Amazing anecdote from a 2016 New Yorker article on the show: > During one visit to Google’s headquarters, in Mountain View, about six writers sat in a conference room with Astro Teller, the head of GoogleX, who wore a midi ring and kept his long hair in a ponytail. “Most of our research meetings are fun, but this one was uncomfortable,” Kemper told me.... > “He claimed he hadn’t seen the show, and then he referred ma…

New Yorker, not NYTimes article.

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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Does the show get any better? I stopped around the time they hacked the phones in that conference, I think season 2? It was a constant the leader fucking up and the gang coming through at the end - over and over and over.

It’s sad that’s all you got out of it. There’s a quite a bit of subtext in the show, particularly if you’re in SV. I often wonder if people outside the valley pick up on the themes or if it’s jusy slapstick to them.

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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I think Mike Judge is the difference here. He strikes me as a genius when it comes to understanding human behavior.

>He strikes me as a genius when it comes to understanding human behavior - Office Space, check! - Idiocracy, check! - Silicon Valley, check! For Silicon Valley it helps he's actually worked for a startup, a hardware one at that.

Office Space and Silicon Valley, sure, but Idiocracy has aged _horribly_.

That movie is full of memes that haven't been relevant since the mid-00s (and specifically, the humor in the movie has a distinct Bush-era vibe which straight-up feels foreign in 2018... it feels like a period piece even though it's set in the future), and I lost whatever enjoyment of it that I had left when actual Neo-Nazis began using the movie to promote their pseudoscience about race and intelligence.

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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I love the running joke that the main characters work on fake technobabble, but the background companies (particularly the TechCrunch episode) are babbling about stuff that sounds fake but is real tech. “Making the world a better place through Paxos distributed consensus!”

A compression algorithm that works well enough to make a P2P Internet practical seems like a ground-breaking technology that is close-to-believable. I challenge any of us to come up with something better or an alternative!

> A compression algorithm that works well enough to make a P2P Internet practical seems like a ground-breaking technology that is close-to-believable.

That’s not the amount of transfered data that makes a P2P Internet practical or not, but rather its reliability, something a compression algorithm can’t do anything about.

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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Pardon the terminology, but I consider that show to be Nerd-Blackface. I'm not sure how else to describe it. I find how the show deals with anything technical to be an affront to intelligence in general.

"Nerd-minstrelsy" is a better term

Seems like the same thing...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show

>The minstrel show, or minstrelsy, was an American form of entertainment developed in the early 19th century. Each show consisted of comic skits, variety acts, dancing, and music performances that mocked people specifically of African descent. The shows were performed by white people in make-up or blackface for the purpose of playing the role of black people.

Re: If you want to understand Silicon Valley, watch Silicon Valley

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Love the show partly for how deeply researched its identity and culturally driven jokes are. Here are a few:

Erlich passing Dinesh off as Latino to get a deal on a graffiti logo design:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSzmVFF58Mo

Dinesh recounting to a puzzled Gilfolye about how he was a "cool" kid back in Pakistan, and why:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKz0M6SmQ8c

The latter one, in particular, implies that the writers had a deeper than average understanding of the different youth cultures of the US and South Asian cultures at a particular time in history.

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