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The Dangerous Fetishization of ‘Hustle Porn’

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Re: The Dangerous Fetishization of ‘Hustle Porn’

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Post by tyingq »

exogeny wrote: post #10

There's nothing wrong with hard work. But there is a lot wrong with the idea that you need to work until your health is impacted to succeed; if you need to work that hard, something else is off - the idea isn't good enough, you're attacking it in the wrong way, whatever. To me this ties into the gross, pervasive trend of wantrepreneurism. Shark Tank, Zuck, Elon Musk - being a founder has never been sexier, never been…

There's also those companies that advertise on TV to help inventors patent their ideas. No price is mentioned. I assume they fleece customers pretty hard.

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Post by itronitron »

honkycat wrote: post #27

Agree with this 100%. Hustle porn is toxic and and the ethos needs to be avoided. It is clear why people latch onto the narrative. Working insane hours is a way to conceal incompetence. When your boss or employees come knocking and sees the complete waste you have made of your task, you can point at your complete lack of social life and how much you have martyred yourself for your company as proof of your competence.…

this may be the first HN comment that increases in sarcasm exponentially with each paragraph.

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Post by apocalypstyx »

p1necone wrote: post #15
apocalypstyx wrote: post #8

Don't look for gold, sell shovels. (Or today, sell self-help and life-style brands.)

I dunno if the comparison is quite right, at least shovels were actually useful in the gold rush.

Please don't slander The Posthuman Dada Guide: Tzara and Lenin Play Chess[1]

[1] https://press.princeton.edu/titles/8846.html

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Post by kirse »

Ecclesiastes 4:6 - "Better one handful with tranquillity than two handfuls with toil and (anxious) chasing after the wind."

In fact, just read the whole book of Ecclesiastes if you want some sobering realities on the nature of the hustle, the grind, the striving for material things:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+2&...

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Post by sk5t »

bunderbunder wrote: post #37
JimboOmega wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What hussle porn is selling most of all is agency. That you can get whatever it is you want through some actions you can take.

Hun. When you put it that way, it doesn't sound all that much different from The Secret .

Nor too different from Dale Carnegie.

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Post by refurb »

knaik94 wrote: post #6

The problem with hustle porn is really how little emphasis is put on luck. They show a grind that translates directly into results, not really talking about dealing with failure due to things outside of one's control. Yes hard work gets you primed for new opportunities, but luck still plays a role in which opportunities you come across.

Yeah, but you can’t control luck. The one thing you can control is how hard you work.

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

The discussion around the content of the article here is interesting, but the thing that stuck out to me the most was this quote:

“No amount of grifting or endless working” will help alleviate the gender pay gap, which, according to the World Economic Forum, won’t close for another 200 years

I read on here all the time that the “gender pay gap” doesn’t exist. So which one is it?

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Post by xvilka »

_zskd wrote: post #45
trevyn wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think working hard is fun, regardless of whether anyone’s watching me or if it’s productive.

Personally, I think I work pretty hard! I don't think I slack off, I just recognize that I'm going to get more out of doing weight training than I will spending another hour on the same code-base I've been hacking on for the last 8 hours. To be clear: I hate working out. HATE. IT. It is so boring!

I think this is exactly the same problem. If you don't like it why to push? Just do training of another kind of the sport? Maybe more active or team one.

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Post by fierro »

honkycat wrote: post #27

Agree with this 100%. Hustle porn is toxic and and the ethos needs to be avoided. It is clear why people latch onto the narrative. Working insane hours is a way to conceal incompetence. When your boss or employees come knocking and sees the complete waste you have made of your task, you can point at your complete lack of social life and how much you have martyred yourself for your company as proof of your competence.…

You a great person! Tell us more

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Post by ak39 »

kirse wrote: post #64

Ecclesiastes 4:6 - "Better one handful with tranquillity than two handfuls with toil and (anxious) chasing after the wind." In fact, just read the whole book of Ecclesiastes if you want some sobering realities on the nature of the hustle, the grind, the striving for material things: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+2&...

This is all well and good if the grind is about next level “material things”. A bigger house, another car, private schooling for the kids, that holiday etc. But there’s a huge proportion of humanity that has to grind just to keep their heads above water. One uninsured medical incident and it’s tickets for them.
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