CDC director warns that Congo's Ebola outbreak may not be containable • Hacker News Board

Re: CDC director warns that Congo's Ebola outbreak may not be containable

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Post by lifeisstillgood » Wed, Nov 07, 2018, 11:01 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #36

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #19

I would love to see regularly updated and triaged "backlogs" for countries, and subsequently the world. And then maybe just report on the top 100 in each news cycle. Just lists of most important tickets in a global todo list - because this would just rise to the top pretty quickly and make us rethink mid terms, Brexit and train delays.

Something like https://ourworldindata.org/ but with more frequent updates? I ask because I too am interested in the very same type of dashboard, and instead have a "Dashboard" bookmarks folder with a variety of links for data.

More akin to the Copenhagen Institute thingamijig that Biorn Lomborg hosts, that tries to get bigwig economists to prioritise interventions based on cost benefit (various low cost high impact projects like innocuoation and medical / public health top the bill)

Something that takes this concept and runs with it, taking both identifiable problems (Ebola outbreak) and solutions (do nothing, invade, stop subsidising petrol in that country)

I suspect that the equivalent of National Security Advisor in each major country does this. I guess what I want is to steal each of their daily briefing documents and make a combined one, and have it read out each day onthe daily news.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_Consensus_Center

Re: CDC director warns that Congo's Ebola outbreak may not be containable

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 12:37 AM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #45

felix_nagaand wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finding that many beds, jobs, and teachers with room in their classes is hard to do. Even if every adult was skilled this would be a hard ask. Add the number of Americans who feel they are being ignored by the political class and we get a big ole stinking problem with lots of unsavory solutions.

The caravan is about 5,000 people. It's shrinking steadily. There are approximately 11,000 babies born each day in the US. This does not look like a real problem.

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Re: CDC director warns that Congo's Ebola outbreak may not be containable

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Post by watersb » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 4:13 AM UTC

the-red-herring wrote: post #49

ashildr wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether the patient will see a doctor in the early or late stages of Their Ebola infection will depend on whether they have health insurance. So here’s another reason for socialized healthcare.

Socialized healthcare doesn't really apply here. Regardless of whether or not the healthcare is free, people still go see a doctor anyway.

Disagree. I have many family members who I cannot convinvce to go to a doctor, for thay are terrified of financial ruin. Literally will not go near a healthcare facility.

Then there are the family and acquaintances who go to the hospital Emergency Room, because although they have no insurance, an Emergency facility is generally required to treat them.

On one hand, we have people who do not receive routine care, who only seek healthcare long after a point where early diagnosis or treatment would have been inexpensive.

On the other hand, we have people who use a military-grade triage center for flu symptoms.

Both situations are ruinously expensive. And continue to contribute to trillion-dollar government-budget shortfalls. To say nothing of the inevitable, preventable zombie apocalypse.

Re: CDC director warns that Congo's Ebola outbreak may not be containable

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Post by watersb » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 4:26 AM UTC

PopeDotNinja wrote: post #59

caseyscottmckay wrote: post #58

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How did you have better healthcare as a homeless person than through your employer? Like what were the numbers (e.g., monthly cost, deductibles, prescription cost, co-pays, and coverage). This is hard to believe. If you're referring to EMTALA requiring emergency rooms stabilize all patients, (1) EMTALA applies to everyone, and (2) EMTALA is not healthcare.

Medi-Cal was free. Basically everything covered on Medi-Cal was free, or super cheap, and it covered a lot. While on my health insurance plan provided by work, the job where I wasn't making enough money to save or meet my deductible, I got into a bicycle accident & ended up with a $50,000 USD out-of-network hospital bill. In case you don't know, one of the reasons that some chronically homeless people don't have heal…

I totally believe this.

When we first met, my wife was still in school, and I had been working in computer stuff for about 10 years. I had good benefits, and thought that medical insurance was a solution to a big problem.

Then watched as my wife tried to get treated for some routine stuff. Not available via the campus clinic, and yet her student "insurance" was not accepted anywhere else within 150 miles without a "co-pay" that was larger than the cost for uninsured patients.

The situation only got worse when we were married later that year. My insurance would only apply after she had sought coverage through her school plan.

We called it "anti-insurance": a form of coverage that, when encountering actual insurance, annihilates it in a violent explosion of virtual particles and real paperwork.

Yeah. The system is fucked.

I believe you.