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At least it wasn't Oracle

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Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#61

With Oracle/Sun it was pretty inverted...the first year was a huge cash infusion, and if anything Sun hardware projects had greater potential than before. And yet, within 5-6 years the entire hardware division imploded. And, meta-comment: this site layout is frustrating on mobile, the text runs off the left/right edges slightly and it refuses to allow pinch/zoom. Sites really need to stop writing code to intentionall…

Really?

Oracle guys doing conference decks with sailboats cracking jokes about how they accidentally broke EMEA sales and shipping by shutting off a data center on schedule, but before the apps were migrated.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#62

That's the opposite of what I thought when Oracle bought Sun. Q: What do you get when you cross IBM and Apple? A: IBM On the bright side, now RedHat employees can flash their new IBM business cards at International Brotherhood of Magicians shows in Las Vegas to get in for free, thanks to the terms of a trademark infringement lawsuit settlement from decades ago.

>On the bright side, now RedHat employees can flash their new IBM business cards at International Brotherhood of Magicians shows in Las Vegas to get in for free, thanks to the terms of a trademark infringement lawsuit settlement from decades ago.

Is this true? I can't find any references anywhere.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#63

That's the opposite of what I thought when Oracle bought Sun. Q: What do you get when you cross IBM and Apple? A: IBM On the bright side, now RedHat employees can flash their new IBM business cards at International Brotherhood of Magicians shows in Las Vegas to get in for free, thanks to the terms of a trademark infringement lawsuit settlement from decades ago.

Didn’t Apple and IBM work on an OS boondoggle back in the Windows 95 time period?

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#64
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I've worked for companies that got acquired and also acquired other companies. Year 1 is usually nothing and things stay the same unless there is some serious fat that needed trimming. The interesting years are 2 and 3. That's when the parent company tries to optimize things (e.g. streamline the sales force), create synergies, etc and you start seeing the changes. Depending on where you are in the acquired company, i…

Yep thats exactly how it goes. I have been in 3 companies that have been acquired and currently in 1yr mark of getting acquired with the current company. Thats exactly how it goes.

Interesting enough I had the displeasure of getting acquired by IBM and the first yr not bad. By year 2 to 3 and being fully converted to IBM culture I can tell you that most of the original employees of the company bought out had all left willing.

I left as well and I couldn't be happier. By far working as a senior level (forgot what band now) engineering consultant for them was one of the worst experience with a company.

They even tried to use legal action to prevent me from switching to another company.They also tried to stall me and BS me long enough for the offer to go away.

I gave them a chance and they matched the offer and terms. 6 months later IBM tried to change the terms of our agreement thinking the other offer was gone and I was at their mercy.

What they didn't know was the other company had been pursuing me for years so I called them and asked if they were still interested. They said yes and I took it. Put in my 2 weeks and IBM tried to stop it with legal actions. Luckily they weren't successful. They even wanted to go after the other company for pursuing me and asking who was the contact. I never told them who it was and said thanks but no thanks I'm out.

IBM was a horrible unethical company to work for IMO.

Run if you can and run early before the max exodus that is surely to come and your industry is flooded.

The funny thing was the day we found out that IBM bought us out one of my colleagues quit right on the spot. Myself and our supervisor at the time were surprised and thinking he was crazy to quit with out even giving them a try. Looking back now I would do the exact same thing if I were to find out IBM purchased our company.

I don't recall ever hearing anything positive from any of my IBM colleagues before,during, or after I left. Actually many former IBMrs called me trying to get out. It was the only company where I had worked at that had a constant bad juju feel about it and inundated with negativity from all the employees.

With other companies that bought us out the process was the same: yr 1 no changes, 2 little changes , 3 you are the new company. I actually stayed with the other companies , the only one I left was IBM. So the acquisition itself doesn't mean that it has to be a negative thing. In my situation the only time it was negative was with IBM.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#65
I used to work for Jet.com, which was acquired by Walmart, and I stayed there for about two years after the acquisition.

It was an OK place to work, and they gave Jet some level of autonomy, but I left when I read that Walmart wants to start "integrating" their stuff ours, which in my case was a lot of Java crap that was clearly at least 10 years old.

I doubt that my experience is atypical with this. Big companies like to buy smaller ones, but don't like having two versions of one thing, and very often they'll view their original version of something as superior to the one they just purchased. In the case of Walmart, I think they bought Jet exclusively for the name.

I'm hoping that IBM is smart enough to sit back and let Redhat do their thing. I don't really want Redhat to become something bloated and horrible like WebSphere.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#67

Theoretically someone could hire a bunch for Red Hat people and continue the business without too much interruption. The software is open source after all. Granted, the infrastructure would not come along and they couldn't use the trademark. But if I'm a customer and my rep tells me "yeah we had a mass exodus over to XYZ corp and are now supporting largely the same Linux stack under a different name" I may well take…

Yes, but whoever did the hiring would have to come up with some substantial capital in order to set up all the required infrastructure, and there would be a long lead-time before profits started coming in.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#69

Not sure why Chris felt so much anxiety about the acquisition. Red Hat was already a huge company and things change. After all, it is just a corporate job and he can find another one, especially in this climate. I can only understand his anxiety if he is an exec high up the chain and likely will be trimmed and his multi-million dollar salary is affected, and he has a huge mortgage, and lots of bills to pay and so on.…

Redhat was acquired for roughly double the market capitalization. IBM presumably is going to do something with the org chart to make good on that bet.

> I can only understand his anxiety if he is an exec high up the chain and likely will be trimmed and his multi-million dollar salary is affected

IBM's got a long history of layoffs over the past decade. The double edged sword of working remote is you have fewer opportunities in a job crisis like this. That said, line staff's phones and inboxes are probably blowing up with recruiters.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#70

This guy got serious anxiety and had to drug himself because some people bought the company he works for. People seriously need perspective in life. What a fucking lunatic.

We've already asked you not to post like this, so could you please not do it again? Eventually we ban accounts that continue to break the guidelines.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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