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Re: Show HN: Not Depressing News

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Hey HN, I'm looking for some feedback on NDN, it's a little MVP that will eventually give you only the not-depressing news from all over the web - it's seeing quite a bit of retention, and I'd like to know what you think! I'd like to turn it into a product, but it's pretty hard to see where to go.

It doesn't display any news, just two empty round boxes, on my browser (Firefox), probably due to the privacy extensions I'm using.

Disabling uBlock Origin and noScript for the site doesn't change this situation.

Re: Show HN: Not Depressing News

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post #2

Hey HN, I'm looking for some feedback on NDN, it's a little MVP that will eventually give you only the not-depressing news from all over the web - it's seeing quite a bit of retention, and I'd like to know what you think! I'd like to turn it into a product, but it's pretty hard to see where to go.

Doesn't work on Firefox (updated) : "Warning: Invalid DOM property `class`. Did you mean `className`?" and some CORS errors.

Re: Show HN: Not Depressing News

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I really like this idea, and have long thought of doing something similar, the reason being that most/all existing services that I've come across so far don't do a good job at it. They can actually be even more depressing than normal news (to me).

One reason reason is that the "positive news" are often reported against something really depressing, don't point to sustainable solutions and so defeats the purpose. In essence I believe "positive news" must either turn a slightly blind eye to the vast number of problems facing humanity (without being essentially just pictures of cats), or mainly bring up such problems if a true solution has been found (not "eating more raisins may reduce cancers in mice").

If this problem could be solved (by heavy manual curation?) I believe a service like this could actually take off.

Re: Show HN: Not Depressing News

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I really like this idea, and have long thought of doing something similar, the reason being that most/all existing services that I've come across so far don't do a good job at it. They can actually be even more depressing than normal news (to me). One reason reason is that the "positive news" are often reported against something really depressing, don't point to sustainable solutions and so defeats the purpose. In es…

How do you handle new stories that some people find positive and others find negative?

Re: Show HN: Not Depressing News

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post #54

Putting "not" to negate a negative isn't always a great idea. "Not Depressing" still has the word depressing, versus "uplifting",pleasant or even hopeful these words will always be much better.

Why do you care about the name? You'd go to that kind of place for the content not because of the title anyway.

because first impressions count

Re: Show HN: Not Depressing News

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From time to time there tends to arise a demand for news that are not "bad" or depressing or paints the world in a somber palette. However, I'm often reminded of this quote by George Orwell: “Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.” Perhaps news are inherently skewed towards the negative side, and that's the way it should be.

Perhaps they are, but news also heavily sensationalizes and dramatizises in order to sell clicks.

Leaving out the good traits of a person to paint him as a monster, even though it might have been an honest mistake.

Re: Show HN: Not Depressing News

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I really like this idea, and have long thought of doing something similar, the reason being that most/all existing services that I've come across so far don't do a good job at it. They can actually be even more depressing than normal news (to me). One reason reason is that the "positive news" are often reported against something really depressing, don't point to sustainable solutions and so defeats the purpose. In es…

How do you handle new stories that some people find positive and others find negative?

Go for very general values (they exist), and have one or several specific target audiences.

Re: Show HN: Not Depressing News

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post #2

Hey HN, I'm looking for some feedback on NDN, it's a little MVP that will eventually give you only the not-depressing news from all over the web - it's seeing quite a bit of retention, and I'd like to know what you think! I'd like to turn it into a product, but it's pretty hard to see where to go.

Recently some people rescued a kangaroo from drowning and gave the marsupial some mouth to mouth resuscitation. I shared this story with animal loving members of the family and we were all moved by it, reassured that humanity was out there in this cruel world.

However, was it news?

This was news in the broader sense of the word but really it was just a human interest story (and maybe a kangaroo interest story).

If we look at the divers rescuing boys from a cave story that Elon Musk got so badly wrong then the same criteria can be applied. Yet their rescue certainly was news. But we didn't give as much scrutiny to the thousands of people rescued in Japan from floodwaters at or around the same time. My Japanese neighbours could have done with less of Elon Musk that week and more of Japan. For them the good news of the rescue in Thailand was at a cost of hearing good (and bad) news from Japan.

Invariably there is a political aspect to the news beyond human interest stories.

For instance, if Donald Trump choked on a pretzel (heaven forbid) and had to leave office due to the calamity then some people would be absolutely delighted, for them this would be 'good news'. Same goes with news regarding the economy. If house prices go up then this is good news to the rent-seeking class but it is not good news for those that are not on the housing ladder and have to pay more money to the rent-seeking class.

Even sport has the same problem, if Burkina Faso beat Brazil in the World Cup then a lot of people would be absolutely gutted, it would not be received as 'good news'.

Given that you are not in control of the content and are stuck with what you have got in that aspect (copying from Reddit) you might want to do what others in this comment section have suggested - remove the 'not' and the 'depressing' from the title. There is a double negative going on there. My suggestion is to go for something where you don't have to limit yourself to mere human interest stories, take a side but leave the politics aside. If you went with something like 'underdog news' then you would be able to take the side of 'Burkina Faso against Brazil' without a problem, plus you could do a nifty logo. You could also engage with your audience on this basis, get them to mod up/down stories based on whether there was some epic struggle going on with a clear underdog. Small child beating grand master at chess? Clearly epic for the underdog. You can sidestep the Trumps/Brexits of the world with this type of a spin and not decide what is and what isn't 'non depressing'.

Re: Show HN: Not Depressing News

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Great Idea love it! I'll second the idea of providing straight info on major current events too, tho that might take a big editorial/journo staff... More immediately, while Chrome populates nicely, Firefox just comes up with the main page with [Top Today] and [New] blank. I'm also running NoScript but w/restrictions lifted on all sources on your site.

Yeah straight info on major stuff would be good. That's interesting - I have no idea why that could be the case - I'm googling around to help it.

You want Memeorandum: https://www.memeorandum.com/

Re: Show HN: Not Depressing News

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Putting "not" to negate a negative isn't always a great idea. "Not Depressing" still has the word depressing, versus "uplifting",pleasant or even hopeful these words will always be much better.

Why do you care about the name? You'd go to that kind of place for the content not because of the title anyway.

Lol exactly what I was thinking
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