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Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Not exactly, they do not have complete control. States can choose their timezone, they can choose whether to adopt DST or not. They cannot choose to switch to DST all year round though. Edit: http://timezonereport.com/?page_id=313 The bottom line here is that a state (or other political subdivision — see the Wayne County, KY reference below) can only: - Opt out of DST - If not opted out of DST, you must advance an ho…

Can't they just move to the neighboring time zone and not adopt DST? (i.e. If California wants permanent summer time, they can switch to MST and sync up with Arizona ("America/Phoenix"))

See my edit, they have to petition to change their time zone.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Not exactly, they do not have complete control. States can choose their timezone, they can choose whether to adopt DST or not. They cannot choose to switch to DST all year round though. Edit: http://timezonereport.com/?page_id=313 The bottom line here is that a state (or other political subdivision — see the Wayne County, KY reference below) can only: - Opt out of DST - If not opted out of DST, you must advance an ho…

Why not? Where does it say that?

See edit.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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“Easier” means nothing. All those checks and balances you despise, will often produce transition plans that are much more respectful of the overall system - precisely because an authority cannot steamroll arbitrary changes that might harm this or that legitimate interest. Efficiency and correctness are not the same thing.

Easier absolutely means something and I'm not suggesting we dump democracy. FYI - most of your government, wherever you are from, is run by bureaucratic edict, not by political means. The heads of government agencies often wield immense power and have no need to respond to voters interest because there's effectively too much 'on the ballot' so to speak, and too much mundane detail for voters to understand. An technic…

Having someone say that, for example, “from tomorrow all your health data will be in Google Docs!” is likely to generate caos and harm people. Democratic government must operate on scales measured in decades, not months, and make sure to be as inclusive as possible (remote island with satellite internet? Probably will oppose any solution with 80mb of single-page JS. Etc etc). This makes for slow progress. It’s just how it is. Add to that the continuous jockeying of vendors, and poor training of administrative elites (a very underestimated problem in many countries)...

Modern society is just big and complex, no matter how hard we wish that weren’t the case.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Time zones in the US are a matter for the sovereign states, not the federal government. There already exists at least one US member state that doesn’t practice DST: Arizona.

Not exactly, they do not have complete control. States can choose their timezone, they can choose whether to adopt DST or not. They cannot choose to switch to DST all year round though. Edit: http://timezonereport.com/?page_id=313 The bottom line here is that a state (or other political subdivision — see the Wayne County, KY reference below) can only: - Opt out of DST - If not opted out of DST, you must advance an ho…

Texas has, in recent years, changed the dates at which they adopted DST more than once (it was something to do with Halloween trick-or-treating and candy lobbyists).

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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I think that’s the only real objection to this move. Any country is entitled to do what it wants regarding DST, but transitions should be orderly and planned well in advance, not imposed from one day to the next. I guess it shows how Morocco is not exactly a democratic country, so you get the classic tyrant-style decision-making here and there.

I think it has nothing to do with Democracy. Frankly, central authority should make this kind of stuff easier because a central entity can take into consideration all of the bureaucracies and do what needs to be done. In Democracies, pushing through such changes has to be a nightmare - so many competing interests, populism, you have to find the right legislative window, legislation is burdened with irrelevant stuff,…

Its crazy to me that this style of thinking is re-surging.

Between this and recent nationalist movements, I'm concerned that our generation will be responsible for a regression in progress.

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Where I live, solar noon is around 11:30am. The sun rising at 4:30am and setting at 6:30pm in the summer is sad. It's even worse in the winter when the sun sets at 4:30pm. (And I come from a country where solar noon is 2pm in the summer, making evenings quite enjoyable)

My opinion is, if you do not want to have dinner when it is dark, then have dinner when it is not dark. It is dark or light depending on what season, and what location, rather than the clock, anyways, whether you use DST or not. The clock is good can tell you the time and how much time is passed and to synchronize the schedule for TV shows and cron events on computer and whatever, but is dark independently from that.…

That's not how real life works. For most people it's exactly the clock on the wall that determines when they go home and have dinner.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Not exactly, they do not have complete control. States can choose their timezone, they can choose whether to adopt DST or not. They cannot choose to switch to DST all year round though. Edit: http://timezonereport.com/?page_id=313 The bottom line here is that a state (or other political subdivision — see the Wayne County, KY reference below) can only: - Opt out of DST - If not opted out of DST, you must advance an ho…

Texas has, in recent years, changed the dates at which they adopted DST more than once (it was something to do with Halloween trick-or-treating and candy lobbyists).

Sorry, what?

edit: to answer my own question: there are some rumors about candy manufacturers influencing legislators to implement dst after Halloween so more children would partake and they would make more money. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with Texas in particular and might not be true at all. But please correct me if I'm wrong.

https://www.romper.com/p/the-crazy-weird-reason-daylight-sav...

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