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Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Post by int_19h »

quantummkv wrote: post #13
sunseb wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's because when you set fractional scaling you lose pixel perfect design (icons, images, and so). https://icons8.com/articles/make-pixel-perfect-icons/

It dosen't happen that way on windows. I had scaling set to 1.25 and got no issues anywhere. The issue with linux is that X wasn't designed for this and Wayland is still unstable/unusable (thanks nvidia)

> It dosen't happen that way on windows. I had scaling set to 1.25 and got no issues anywhere.

You do get scaled (and hence somewhat blurry) icons if you do 1.25x on Windows as well. 1.5x usually works better, because icons scaled by that much tend to hit the next size tier that is often available prescaled to look good (16x16 -> 24x24, 32x24 -> 48x48).

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Post by int_19h »

sunseb wrote: post #29
quantummkv wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point of svg and (vector graphics) is that you can scale them to whatever you want.

If you do fractional scaling on a svg image, pixels will not align to the pixel grid and the image will look blury. You won't notice that on big svg images, but tiny ui icons will definitely look blurry. There was even a (never implemented) proposal to allow svg files to handle this problem. https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Proposals/SVG_hintin... That's why svg icons are often designed using a 24x24 pixel gri…

It's still better than scaling bitmaps, so it's weird to single out SVG as the culprit. It makes things better in general, not worse.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Post by Tepix »

Great to see a new release. Looks like TLS 1.3 is supported OOTB.

To get nginx with TLS 1.3 support currently required compiling from source on Bionic. "The Ubuntu project is currently evaluating replacing OpenSSL 1.1.0 with backported OpenSSL 1.1.1 in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. Bug 1797386"

Fingers crossed...

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Post by tssva »

s_kilk wrote: post #27
sanqui wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The planned release of Fedora 29 was just yesterday pushed back by a week due to blocker bugs. Personally, this sort of quality control is what makes me really appreciate Fedora. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-2...

Sample-size of one here, but I switched to Fedora a few years back after growing tired of Ubuntu's bugs. I haven't had any real issues since, it's just solid.

Here is a counter sample of one. I switched to Fedora from Ubuntu. Eventually switched back to Ubuntu once I got tired of my system breaking in some new way each time Fedora released a new version. Ubuntu has been rock solid for me.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Post by tajen »

oblio wrote: post #56
pjmlp wrote: post #22

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They just have decided like Red-Hat did before them, that there is no money to be made on the Linux desktops and they better focus on IoT and server as long term survival plan. There was a blog post about it. Yet they still have one of the best laptop support.

> They just have decided like Red-Hat did before them, that there is no money to be made on the Linux desktops And can you blame them?

Me.

I’d pay 200$ per year for each desktop of my company if I could have an OSS alternative to macOS. PC are half price, but still with half-baked OS. If I pay $250 per IntelliJ, how much is a good open-source OS?

Heck, even Dell would decuple their XPS sales if they had a nice open-source OS for it.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Post by vmp »

Personally, I've only ever had issues with Ubuntu Server and have since switched back to Debian.

I don't know if I'm extremely unlucky or if the choices I make are really that bad;

- I've hit a bug with amavisd and bitdefender[1]

- Recently, Ubuntu pushed for 'netplan' instead of ifupdown and that didn't work with an empty bridge for LXC[2][3]

- They broke a (convenience) script for remotely unlocking a LUKS rootfs[4]

- postconf segfaulting every 5 minutes[5], nothing bad but it just looks ugly in the server logs

That's the major annoyances that I've experienced in the last 3 years. Never had anything like it on Debian. :/

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amavisd-new/+bug/1...

[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/netplan/+bug/1736975

[3] https://bugs.launchpad.net/netplan/+bug/1773997

[4] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/busybox/+bug/16518...

[5] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfix/+bug/17534...

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Post by gglitch »

brendaningram wrote: post #9

Unfortunately, I think Canonical has lost their focus on the desktop user. Every version of Ubuntu since 16.04 has had major issues for me. I have given every one of them a chance to redeem themselves, right up to today trying 18.10. Still no dice... For me, as boring as it sounds, Debian 9 (Stretch) with XFCE is rock solid as a daily driver. I'm not some fuddy duddy doing nothing but text editing either. I code ever…

Can you recommend any particular tutorial or resource for getting a music production setup like yours going in Linux? Last time I tried was in 2014 and I couldn’t figure out (or find documentation at my level on) wiring JACK up.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Post by lllr_finger »

vetinari wrote: post #24
quantummkv wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It dosen't happen that way on windows. I had scaling set to 1.25 and got no issues anywhere. The issue with linux is that X wasn't designed for this and Wayland is still unstable/unusable (thanks nvidia)

Wayland is actually pretty stable. Nvidia has problem with OpenGL in Xwayland (i.e. 3d accel for x11 apps), otherwise, it should work. There are warts though, when using Wayland. When using scaling (doesn't have to be fractional, either), X11 apps are being upscaled, not downscaled, resulting in blurriness. Unfortunately, neither Firefox nor Chrome does support Wayland natively, and who wants to use their most used a…

After 10 years of work you still can't do much useful unless you run X and shim it with XWayland. "Stable" is a strange descriptor given this context.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Post by lllr_finger »

tumetab1 wrote: post #3

I'm amazed at Canonical policy of releasing new versions with these kind of bugs open https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes#Known_... Anyone care to recommend a distro which has better policy on quality? (for desktop usage)

I railed aganinst Red Hat and Fedora for years, then gave in to peer pressure eventually - it's been an extremely pleasant and productive experience.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Post by nanna »

A point that's not been discussed in the Ubuntu vs Debian discussion here is the difference in communities. A major reason I prefer Ubuntu - ok specifically Kubuntu - is because I find the community around it warm, welcoming, positive, encouraging and inclusive, whereas I found the Debian-user email list cantankerous to say the least. I'm glad there's a place for the kinds of posters out there in the world, but it's not for me. Horses for courses, as we say in the UK. Linux isn't just a bunch of software that I can use, but a community which I am a part of.
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