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Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

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Re: Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

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Post by Terretta »

neurobashing wrote: post #40

As a resident of Ashburn, VA the locations are hardly a secret. Just about everyone in the area who cares to know, knows. I drive past the place in the header image of https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/01/amazo... on the way home from the Sterling Wal-Mart. My next door neighbor is an HVAC tech for Amazon, and he's only barely secretive about where they are (to me anyway). Everyone at Old Ox and Cro…

Agree.

The Google Maps tiles are labeled “Amazon Datacenter Complex” or such on at least one cluster. I don’t mean Wikileak’s pins, I mean the public rendered tiles.

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Post by expathacker »

Not the most exciting, or revealing of leaks. Less interesting, then, say, their leaks of Turkish dessert recipes[0]. Great attempt at clickbait though!

Compare the locations with https://www.internetexchangemap.com/ and you'll see that most of these are just the natural locations for datacenters. Most of these locations are within a few kilometers, sometimes within a few hundred meters, of other commercial datacenters.

They generally fall within: Close to major population and finance centers with affordable power, abundant fiber, and local/state governments willing to give subsidies... like every other datacenter.

0. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/757649656650297345

Re: Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

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Post by scrollaway »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #21
mey wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WikiLeaks may not have the mission statement you think it does.

Insert some bullshit about working with Russia, bla, bla, bla, China, Iran, any country the U.S. doesn't like? If so, I don't think that's it, as much as the DNC would like to detract from conspiring against Sanders. WikiLeaks does have biases, sure, like Assange not liking Clinton, since she called for his droning, however if you actually read more about WikiLeaks than the surface reports, it is simply that they bel…

I don't remember on which occasion it was -and can't find it now-, but recently (post-2016) both Assange and Wikileaks were clearly riling people up against Snowden. That's right about when I stopped caring what they had to say (and it's such a hard departure from the 2013-era Assange who was supportive of Snowden).

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Post by QuinnyPig »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #6

How come WikiLeaks is distributing this? I don't see any meaningful connection to government transparency or even corporate transparency... this has nothing to do with abuse of power, it is completely normal and rightful for a company to keep its infrastructure locations secret. Some of this could be found through public records, etc. and that fine to post, but internal operating procedures are not. Sure, it's fun to…

I'm not sure why Russian intelligence cares about AWS datacenter locations.

This has largely been an "open secret" for a long time. If you want to know where an AWS datacenter is, ask local taxi drivers and pizza delivery folks. These things are huge, and very hard to hide.

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Post by staticautomatic »

danvasquez29 wrote: post #57
pageandrew wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is the connection to government transparency. The CIA is storing massive amounts of our data somewhere, so shouldn't we have the right to know where?

I don't believe so, not if the risk to the general public is great enough.

The public is far more at risk with the CIA around to begin with, so long as it continues to carry out bullshit interventions around the world that so often come back to bite us. The primary impediment to enumerating these risks is the CIA's lack of transparency.

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Post by AsyncAwait »

wstuartcl wrote: post #38
AsyncAwait wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Insert some bullshit about working with Russia, bla, bla, bla, China, Iran, any country the U.S. doesn't like? If so, I don't think that's it, as much as the DNC would like to detract from conspiring against Sanders. WikiLeaks does have biases, sure, like Assange not liking Clinton, since she called for his droning, however if you actually read more about WikiLeaks than the surface reports, it is simply that they bel…

... It is not about Republicans or Democrats -- the reality is that it is operating in a way where we can all be assured it is not doing so in "our" best interest, but instead for some other nation-states purpose. Just because the party you identify with seems to be helped by something they have done recently does not mean you should take them as being honest actors.

> "the reality is that it is operating in a way where we can all be assured it is not doing so in "our" best interest, but instead for some other nation-states purpose"

The reality is that WikiLeaks has exposed a lot of information that we should know, I have yet to see solid evidence it's done for another nation state.

> Just because the party you identify with seems to be helped by something they have done recently does not mean you should take them as being honest actors.

Agreed, but I am also not going to believe the talking points of a party apparatus that cheated one of its own candidates. Would you?

I am not even a U.S. citizen, so I have no dog in this race, but I am well aware that both of the parties do anything to deflect from their own failures and now it's the Democrats, since they lost.

What have the Democrats done to offer a truly progressive platform, instead of the centrist one that lost them the election? Sure, they blame Russia 24/7, but that doesn't offer voters anything. Many Democrats in Congress vote with Trump and the Republicans well over 50% of the time, so this whole thing looks to me like a sham.

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Post by ceejayoz »

pageandrew wrote: post #51
azinman2 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So?

That is the connection to government transparency. The CIA is storing massive amounts of our data somewhere, so shouldn't we have the right to know where?

I don't think the CIA's version of AWS is stored in these datacenters. It's a totally separate region, likely with special physical security measures and oversight rules. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/publicsector/announcing-the-new...

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Post by AsyncAwait »

scrollaway wrote: post #63
AsyncAwait wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Insert some bullshit about working with Russia, bla, bla, bla, China, Iran, any country the U.S. doesn't like? If so, I don't think that's it, as much as the DNC would like to detract from conspiring against Sanders. WikiLeaks does have biases, sure, like Assange not liking Clinton, since she called for his droning, however if you actually read more about WikiLeaks than the surface reports, it is simply that they bel…

I don't remember on which occasion it was -and can't find it now-, but recently (post-2016) both Assange and Wikileaks were clearly riling people up against Snowden. That's right about when I stopped caring what they had to say (and it's such a hard departure from the 2013-era Assange who was supportive of Snowden).

I did not hear about this, have a link?
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