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Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Interesting. I switched to the new Gmail, and I actually can't remember what the old one looked like already. I'm sure Google will do just fine ignoring all these requests and their billion+ users will adapt.

My biggest issue (that users will find hard to ignore) is the lag. The new UI loads noticeably slower... And I don't feel like it's giving me anything useful to compensate for the lag.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#66
Speaking personally (I happen to work at Google, but not on mail):

The combinatorics of supporting multiple versions of a product get expensive very quickly. It's the same reason that web platform changes now affect evergreen browsers directly (even with the occasional breaking change), rather than introducing more modes like quirks and strict.

Every variant you introduce grows the surface area for bugs and security issues, and adds at least one more case to consider when implementing new functionality. Even if you froze the featureset in the old UI, you'd still need to maintain compatibility with it as the backend evolves. It's not as simple as just leaving the old codebase running on a server somewhere.

If Google wanted to invest in multiple mail products, it wouldn't have end-of-lifed Inbox.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are better UX-wise yes but they are also much slower, that's my problem with it. I don't really care to have fancy animations if it takes 5 more seconds to load and 3 more seconds when I click on something. The new Google Maps is bad enough that I use only the phone app now.

Do you have specific examples? Everything is instantaneous for me.

Just loading the empty Google maps page (just https://maps.google.com) takes at least 5 seconds for me. During that time, it's doing so much stuff in the background that it makes the input on the left lag, so during that time, you realistically cannot do much, otherwise you risk to mistype your search.

Every Zoom/Unzoom animation is lagging a lot, the problem is they added that everywhere to make it fancier:

- When you click on a result

- when you click on the arrows on the destination screen

- when you enter a destination

- when you click on another type of transport (car, public transport...)

So all those actions are lagging because of that.

It's probably because they only spent time to optimise it in Chrome but I don't care, I prefer to stop to use GMaps than to use Chrome.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#69

Same thing happened with Google maps a couple of years ago. They changed the UI to one a lot less functional, gave users an option to use the old UI for a while, then took it away. Now we're stuck with gmaps that are much worse than they used to be. Product managers at Google (and everywhere else) don't get promoted for leaving good products alone.

The layout takes up more of the screen, which I kinda like, but my issue was always how terrible terribly slow it is now. It's so laggy, compared to competitors like Here and OSM. The Fruit co could probably give Google a run if they opened up a web version. Google Maps on Android is almost entirely unusable now. It's so god damn slow on my Sony Z5c running Lineage. The combination of Maps and Google Services updates…

There's actually an official JS Framework for Apple Maps [1]. It's not a dedicated website, but still

https://developer.apple.com/maps/mapkitjs/

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#70

In 2012 I switched back to running my own e-mail. I realize there are reliability issues sending stuff out to Google/Microsoft (and yes, I have the correct DKIM, SPF and DMARC records), but I'm still happier running my own. I use Thunderbird and Roundcube, but I could also use Evolution if I wanted to or Microsoft Mail on my Windows machine or even fire up Squirlmail in a docker container.

Overcomplicated for an average user. Doesn't apply to 99.99% of the population unfortunately.
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