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Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by deadbeef404 »

apengwin wrote: post #49
ssijak wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing "artistic" in overusing autotune. It is just a tool to "mask" that that person can`t really sing at all and is overused in popular/commercial genres where there is an abundance of untalented musicians. I can`t imagine anyone saying that obvious autotuned songs sound good.

Kanye West used autotune to great effect in 808s and Heartbreak, one of the seminal albums of this century

Very true about using it to great effect in 808s and Heartbreak! I remember hearing one of those tracks and finding it fairly nice to listen to. Then I heard him live on SNL and his singing voice was close to non-existent.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by throwaway8879 »

nineteen999 wrote: post #32
chillee wrote: post #19

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Practically all singers use "pitch correction", which is essentially "autotune that's not done for artistic effect". If done properly, it's not really janky or fake sounding at all.

Maybe for recorded mainstream pop music that is true, but we can tell because the performance then sounds bowdlerised and dull. It can't really help with a live performance and a for a good singer, recording multiple takes is going to be faster/more economical, punching in/out is so easy and with modern digital DAW's like ProTools (which does this by default) it keeps all your takes for you anyway - no need to waste…

Except you have no idea how any of those "fantastic vocal performances" were processed. Vocal effects go back a good 50 years.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by puranjay »

ssijak wrote: post #45
valtism wrote: post #29

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The autotune you refer to as "janky and fake" is when autotune is used with intention to create that sound as an artistic syle. Autotune is used across most pop (and other) music, but in such a way that that you never realise it is there. It is similar to special effects. People complain about how bad and fake they look, but this is only for the effects that are bad enough that they are noticible. People don't realis…

There is nothing "artistic" in overusing autotune. It is just a tool to "mask" that that person can`t really sing at all and is overused in popular/commercial genres where there is an abundance of untalented musicians. I can`t imagine anyone saying that obvious autotuned songs sound good.

Let me introduce you to Bon Iver's "22, A Million"

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN61gg9VNXPomdZu0UY_w...

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by gpvos »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #38
valtism wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The autotune you refer to as "janky and fake" is when autotune is used with intention to create that sound as an artistic syle. Autotune is used across most pop (and other) music, but in such a way that that you never realise it is there. It is similar to special effects. People complain about how bad and fake they look, but this is only for the effects that are bad enough that they are noticible. People don't realis…

It is still noticeable in normal performances. You can hear unnatural overtones from autotune used as intended. Even more so when supposed singers use it live and have to stay glued to their mic to isolate any outside noise.

Interesting! Do you have examples where it is possible to hear these unnatural overtones?

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by mirimir »

Jaruzel wrote: post #57
mirimir wrote: post #47

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I suppose. But then, what would be the hiring criteria? Lowest bid? Nice ass? And the focus here is "anyone", not professionals.

The biggest worry here, is where instead of hiring 20 dancers for a music video, they only hire one, and use AI to AutoDance[1] a bunch of low-cost actors instead. This could destroy the jobbing dancer-for-hire market. -- [1] AutoDance™ - Like AutoTune. I hereby claim it as a term. ;)

OK, I get that. But then, why bother hiring meat at all? Just CGI it entirely.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by puranjay »

nineteen999 wrote: post #32
chillee wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Practically all singers use "pitch correction", which is essentially "autotune that's not done for artistic effect". If done properly, it's not really janky or fake sounding at all.

Maybe for recorded mainstream pop music that is true, but we can tell because the performance then sounds bowdlerised and dull. It can't really help with a live performance and a for a good singer, recording multiple takes is going to be faster/more economical, punching in/out is so easy and with modern digital DAW's like ProTools (which does this by default) it keeps all your takes for you anyway - no need to waste…

As someone who likes to write and produce songs but can't sing, I'd say that auto-tune and pitch correction are a Godsend. It means I can try out new ideas without having to rely on a vocalist.

Modern production tools have mostly eliminated the need to work with a band. I can create music that I want to create with complete artistic freedom. Auto-tune is just another step in that direction.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by hrktb »

cheschire wrote: post #17

I could see this being used in the same way that auto-tune type effects are added to singers voices. The editing of music videos could include a tool like this to make sure all of the dancers behind the main one are moving just right. And just like auto-tuned voices, it will come off as janky and fake.

Good parralel.

And the same way some song makers have used autotune to adjust synthetic voices like Hatsune Miku’s, would this have any use as an external filter to smooth out synthethized videos ?

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by eivarv »

DrNuke wrote: post #53

We should think of something like a blockchain to mark all this sh*t as fake though, because in five years time there will be no way to distinguish reality from invention and we will all be under constant blackmail from malicious agents and rogue governments showing up at our door with whatever made-up accusation they want.

How would blockchain solve the issue?

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by DrNuke »

eivarv wrote: post #69
DrNuke wrote: post #53

We should think of something like a blockchain to mark all this sh*t as fake though, because in five years time there will be no way to distinguish reality from invention and we will all be under constant blackmail from malicious agents and rogue governments showing up at our door with whatever made-up accusation they want.

How would blockchain solve the issue?

Link a blockchain app made with IOTA (for example, but this is the best and most manageable protocol I can see out there just now) to your unique ID in the form of something like your heartbeat plus your physical location plus your actual body shape, then perform a mini-transaction every 30 seconds or every minute or the granularity you need, finally store the transactions linked to that data as an alibi against any accusation that you were somewhere else doing something fake an AI created to blackmail you.
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