Aerial photos reveal the stark divide between rich and poor

Post by DoreenMichele » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 11:51 PM UTC

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DoreenMichele wrote: post #53

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I assure you, my needs are not the same as yours. With 7 billion people, one-size-fits-all simply doesn't.

I did not claim that the needs of everyone are identical, only that they should be met without favouring one individual over another.

Post by v_lisivka » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 11:54 PM UTC

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Antifa is anti-fascist not anti-wealth. The are a lot of leftists who are both, but they are not the same thing. Antifa groups don’t protest Republican political rally’s, for example.

Antifa isn't any more "anti-fascist" than the People's Democratic Republic of (North) Korea is a "democratic republic", or than old-school Pravda contained truth. They are violent communists. P.S. there haven't been any real fascists for, like, 70 years. So, mission accomplished then?

Post by taneq » Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 12:05 AM UTC

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These sort of photos, while interesting visually, prove nothing and say even less. Except that rich people and poor people exist and that if you're a developer you should be careful where you build lest your new development appear in a moralizing photographic exhibition. To be clear, I am not saying inequality does not exist or that there aren't real problems of disparity of wealth, just that drawing very wide conclu…

These photos are powerful, and say a lot about inequality in just a handful of scenes. The ideal situation would be for everyone to live in functionally identical dwellings that provide their every need. Somewhat like the world described by E. M. Forster in The Machine Stops, except without the dystopian aspect of fully enclosed spaces and unmaintained infrastructure. Until we reach that pinnacle of human existence,…

Post by taneq » Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 12:07 AM UTC

DoreenMichele wrote: post #62

zzt wrote: post #55

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I did not claim that the needs of everyone are identical, only that they should be met without favouring one individual over another.

The ideal situation would be for everyone to live in functionally identical dwellings that provide their every need. Perhaps you can explain to me how my different needs can be met by being forced to live in a unit that is functionally identical to all others. Because I absolutely don't see it.

Post by noonespecial » Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 12:07 AM UTC

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This doesn’t sound like the “ideal situation”, it sounds like a dystopian nightmare. One that will literally never, ever happen, but that doesn’t stop people from trying, no matter how many hundreds of millions suffer and die in the process. Edit: I’ll also point out the irony that nothing has impoverished and starved as many people as your vision of utopia, and nothing has pulled as many people OUT of abject poverty…

On the contrary, as we gradually grow further toward work being almost entirely automated, capitalism as we know it will wither and die. There is no market if machines do all the work. It may take centuries but in the end, the only equitable answer is full communism, managed by a benevolent artificial intelligence.