Is this an issue that relates to data rights? Who gave facebook the right to slice and dice my usage habits into a social model? What data relationships does facebook rely on to aggregate the signals into their prediction algorithm? Does Alphabet have any agreement or contract pertaining to data exchange? Does facebook rely on their billions of listening nodes, the social sharing button on most every website you visit, to incorporate your web browsing habits into the social trust score? Alphabet and facebook worked together in China to build the Chinese Social Credit Score. Is this the prelude to the US version?
Facebook is rating the trustworthiness of its users on a scale from zero to one
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Good intentions? I would even argue against that. I find it hard to believe facebook has good intentions with this. Remember, Mr. Zuckerberg is alleged to have called Mr. Trump the night of the election to congratulate him. Let’s stop pretending like the tech industry is full of good intentioned people making an “oops”
What are you insinuating? Facebook as a whole leans left.
No. The staff may lean left, but Facebook leans towards the interests of Facebook's business model, and occasionally the pet causes of the C-suite.
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What are you insinuating? Facebook as a whole leans left.
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Ridiculous. Bigwigs placing congratulatory phone calls to the President Elect after victory is traditional. Lots of people did it. He would have done the same for Hillary if she had won.
And it's not going out of your way, it's 5 minutes of someone's time.
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The problem with conflating biased coverage with fake news is that the latter phrase becomes meaningless. "Fake" means "false", not "stuff I disagree with".
But the parent commenter's issue does imply a solution! Just add "Biased/slanted coverage" to the list of reasons to report, and now your "Fake News" section is much higher signal to noise.
Everything is biased. True objectivity is effectively impossible, and it's not even clear that perfect objectivity is desirable.
People will report any negative coverage of their favorite party/politician as biased, especially now that the current U.S. president hoists that banner every day.
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#65"Lyons said she soon realized that many people were reporting posts as false simply because they did not agree with the content." Well, yes. Have they not learned from any of the preceding work on moderating?
"many people were reporting posts as false simply because they did not agree with the content."
This happens on HN so it's going to happen in userland for sure!
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What are you insinuating? Facebook as a whole leans left.
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...or he wants to position his company in a favorable way to the new administration just like every other large mega corporation in America. I don't read any intention other than that. He wasn't the only tech CEO to reach out to the administration shortly after the election.
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#67> "Lyons said she soon realized that many people were reporting posts as false simply because they did not agree with the content." So, people report posts as false when they do not agree that they are true? I'm struggling to understand how that is a surprise, or what other possible thing you could expect. That's literally exactly what “false” means.
By "agree with the content", the author clearly doesn't means "believe that the content is factually incorrect", rather that they disagree with the viewpoint expressed in the story.
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#68> Because Facebook forwards posts that are marked as false to third-party fact-checkers, she said it was important to build systems to assess whether the posts were likely to be false to make efficient use of fact-checkers’ time. This seems like a "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" kind of thing. On one hand, I understand not wanting to forward every single story when a troll is mass-reporting, on the o…
Good intentions? I would even argue against that. I find it hard to believe facebook has good intentions with this. Remember, Mr. Zuckerberg is alleged to have called Mr. Trump the night of the election to congratulate him. Let’s stop pretending like the tech industry is full of good intentioned people making an “oops”
You had me with your take on "good intentions". You lost me with bringing Trump into the discussion.
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#69I'm going to guess that a lot of truly trustworthy right leaning people are going to get worse scores than they should because they don't believe in the left wing dominate media's narratives.
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...or he wants to position his company in a favorable way to the new administration just like every other large mega corporation in America. I don't read any intention other than that. He wasn't the only tech CEO to reach out to the administration shortly after the election.
that basically proves my original point that he is not well-intentioned.