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Re: We are taking new steps against broadening threats to democracy

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Post by foo101 » Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 3:04 PM UTC

vetinari wrote: post #60

foo101 wrote: post #59

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If the vendor supplied such a system or provided the answer to your question, would you trust it? Why? You always need independent researchers to verify vendor's claims.

That's where the transparency comes in. In most linux distribution, when you have a crash and the crash reporting is enabled, you can peek into what exactly is going to be sent. If you have smallest of the doubt, you can opt to not send anything. Or opt out of sending anything, ever. Of course, seeing that the data you submit is used to solve your specific problem, and not disappearing into black hole just to feed so…

If the vendor wrote crash reports which you could review before sending, would you trust that the crash report is actually what is being sent?

If you opted out of sending anything, do you really trust that the vendor is not sending anything?

You still need to research what is going on at the low level to be sure if something is being sent or not and what is being sent. Your grandma is going to rely on the information obtained from independent researchers.

Yes, the behavior of Linux distributions are also independently audited by independent researchers.

Re: We are taking new steps against broadening threats to democracy

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Post by _8j50 » Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 11:41 PM UTC

polack wrote: post #16

_8j50 wrote: post #13

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Latter,they work with governments a lot to take down malware domains and such

Why is the court letting Microsoft handle these cases? I understand it's convenient if Microsoft is the one detecting the domains and handing the case over to a court. But shouldt't these crimes be investigated by proper police?

They don't directly enforce any laws. Think of it like neighboorhood watch people that find suspicious criminal activity and call the cops.

They do all the investigation and leave the guns,handcuffs and prosecution to the government.

Re: We are taking new steps against broadening threats to democracy

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Post by EDSP » Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 11:20 AM UTC

lern_too_spel wrote: post #54

EDSP wrote: post #48

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The research results quoted contain election interferences between 1945 and 2000. Since then it has only become far worse. So no, it's not been 70 years ago since the last election interference conducted by the US and yes I am holding this kind of action against the United States and so should you: https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-interfered-in-elections-of-...

Your link provides the following to support your claim: "That’s just till 2000! The US has gone nuts since then." Do you really accept that as proof?

It also contains "...Since 2000, the U.S. has attempted to sway elections in Ukraine, Kenya, Lebanon, and Afghanistan, among others..." - Ukraine: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-uk... - Kenia: https://www.globalresearch.ca/foreign-interference-in-kenyas... - Lebanon: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09STATE35241_a.html

More links with detailed information: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2017/08/01/interferi...

https://www.cato.org/blog/hypocrisy-election-interference "...More recently there have been Macedonia, Serbia, Albania, Bosnia, Ukraine, Russia (especially Yeltsin’s 1995-96 campaign), Algeria, Lebanon, Palestine, Cyprus, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Yemen, Vietnam, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Congo and several other countries in Africa, and, in Latin America, every country multiple times including within the last fifteen years Haiti, Dominican Republic, Honduras, Panama, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Columbia, Paraguay, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, Brazil, and Argentina. Brenner’s list is an ongoing project. It does not include Canada, and just possibly there are some Canadians who might find that omission to be unjustified..."

Extensive source of information on US election interferences: https://books.google.nl/books/about/Diplomatic_Interference_...

https://consortiumnews.com/tag/american-exceptionalism

https://zodml.org/sites/default/files/%5BJoseph_Smith%5D_The...