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Re: Instructions from Facebook not to touch the posts of the cabinet minister

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The comments here are mostly focused on the Vienna video so it seems the article failed to properly explain to foreigners the other (imho more serious) part: the whitelisting of origo.hu

It's difficult to explain in a few lines just how awful that site is. Used to be the biggest, well respected hungarian news site until it was bought by Orban's friends a few years ago. Since then the political columns are literal fake news and smear campaigns against political opponents. The kind of thing that would be (rightfully) censored by Facebook if it was posted by anybody else. Letting the government (and only the government!) peddle this kind of rhetoric with oversight explicitly lifted is a very dangerous and morally questionable practice.

Re: Instructions from Facebook not to touch the posts of the cabinet minister

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The migrants are very satisfied, thank you.

nhanq is a one day old account posting fake news. Let's hope that the trolls don't take hold here on HN too. There are many valid criticisms of these kind of surveys, but crime, which is the hook that the anti-migrant posters like to use, is one of the criteria - so the idea that "It's getting bad there" is the one that needs rapid rebuttal.

> Let's hope that the trolls don't take hold here on HN too.

They're already here. If you step back you can see how they've shifted discussion in a lot of threads with young or barely active accounts.

Re: Instructions from Facebook not to touch the posts of the cabinet minister

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Is it really that hard to unfollow? Worked for me. I’ve unfollowed people for sportsball and I’ve unfollowed people for racism. Worked for both.

In some case there is direct harm caused by the posts. Pizzagate was an example which led to a man turning up to a pizza shop with a gun based on the fake story and the business owners received death threats. Not everything is as easy as just unfollowing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

When it comes to hate speech, incitment to do harm or lies about elections a subset of people unfollowing doesn't mean there still won't be harmful consequences.

Re: Instructions from Facebook not to touch the posts of the cabinet minister

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And rightly so. I'm surprised more countries haven't enforced rules on Facebook, like China does. Saying like "only things that are illegal are to be prohibited". It's insane to leave it arbitrarily to the opinion of a foreign company.

Very much not rightly so, as they are giving special privileges to one group.

Re: Instructions from Facebook not to touch the posts of the cabinet minister

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post #66

Is it really that hard to unfollow? Worked for me. I’ve unfollowed people for sportsball and I’ve unfollowed people for racism. Worked for both.

In some case there is direct harm caused by the posts. Pizzagate was an example which led to a man turning up to a pizza shop with a gun based on the fake story and the business owners received death threats. Not everything is as easy as just unfollowing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory When it comes to hate speech, incitment to do harm or lies about elections a subset of people unfollowin…

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Re: Instructions from Facebook not to touch the posts of the cabinet minister

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Facebook is not a worldwide communication channel. It's a social network/community owned by a single company and its shareholders. Internet is the worldwide communication channel. You can "filter" it and make sure it aligns with your own standards by simply choosing to visit and use websites, communities and services which do align with your standards, and by avoiding those which don't align.

What if your own government uses Facebook to communicate with it’s populace? (For example, this ) Are you recommending everyone just stop participating in politics? I can’t imagine a more sheltered perspective. I’m guessing you’re an American. If so, please, stop following this advice! The rest of the world is begging you.

Look at the tweets in the last days from Trump regarding Omarosa...

Personally, I'm disgusted that twitter is the official medium of the POTUS.

Re: Instructions from Facebook not to touch the posts of the cabinet minister

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post #66

Is it really that hard to unfollow? Worked for me. I’ve unfollowed people for sportsball and I’ve unfollowed people for racism. Worked for both.

In some case there is direct harm caused by the posts. Pizzagate was an example which led to a man turning up to a pizza shop with a gun based on the fake story and the business owners received death threats. Not everything is as easy as just unfollowing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory When it comes to hate speech, incitment to do harm or lies about elections a subset of people unfollowin…

Pizzagate was unfortunate and pathetic, but is controlling every post on the Internet the right response?

Once censorship is in place, how do you prevent the wrong people from taking control of it? How would you even know?

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