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Re: Smoking around the world

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One of the few things I despised about traveling in Europe was people smoking inside like it was the 70's. Almost lost it over a couple puffing away in the dairy section of the super market, managed to keep my mouth shut. Shame because I otherwise loved my time there.

Was it in the 70s you went? All European countries now have indoor smoking bans, mostly for a decade or more. Some countries still let you smoke in bars and restaurants, but nowhere allows you to smoke inside a supermarket.

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There are massive warnings on the packs in New Zealand. I believe they can't use any branding at all on the packs in Australia.

They can include the brand name in Australia, but the format is precisely specified including valid fonts and sizes. Names are also regulated so they can't imply a health claim (like afaik "Mild"). It would be instructive to do an image search for "Australian cigarette packaging" if you want to see exactly what they look like. I gather a lot of smokers like to use boxes to put their cigarette boxes in so they don't h…

I'd love to see plain packaging for everything. Sell your products on their actual merits, not just on whatever flashy colors you put on the packaging that gets discarded anyway.

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There are massive warnings on the packs in New Zealand. I believe they can't use any branding at all on the packs in Australia.

New Zealand also introduced plain packaging recently. An interesting side effect of plain packaging is that it's made the prevalence of illegally imported cigarettes much more noticeable. There's a fair amount tobacco smuggled in from Indonesia and SE Asia, and you can notice it now because the smuggled packs of smokes still have branding on them.

In Singapore, importing tobacco is illegal full stop (no duty-free or duty-paid allowance) and all legal locally sold tobacco is stamped "SDPC" (Singapore Duty-Paid Cigarette). If you're caught by police with an unstamped cigarette, the first offence fine is $500.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/25-smokers-caught-wit...

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I quit the damn thing some 13 years ago and I've never looked back since. Best decision I've ever made. Earned back my life, I'm in my mid forties and my physical endurance is way better than what it was in my twenties. The thing that most smokers don't realize is that smoking is like taking heroin. You're addicted to a substance that's slowly and silently killing you. Just a couple of years ago I lost a very good fr…

My dad was a smoker most of his life. He quit in his 50s. Years later I asked him if he missed it, and his answer was "every single day."

I have some coworkers who successfully quit, but started smoking again cause they simply enjoyed it.

They hardly drank(liquor) and it was their ownly vice, knowing it's still bad for them but could be doing worse.

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A better analogy would be a potential campaign to reduce obesity. If US could pull off a public fat shaming campaign as successful and the one around tobacco it would be a huge benefit to individual people's quality of life as well as economy as a whole.

I would argue this is already underway. There is a concerted campaign against fast food and sugary drinks. There are all sorts of programs to encourage people to exercise. Big corporations have annual “health screenings” where they fat shame you if your BMI is a point over and you drink alcohol once a week. The problem is that obesity is a complex problem. Not everyone who is overweight is a lazy person who eats Dori…

I hate to say it but generally people are overweight because they eat more than they should. Not much more to it for majority of the overweight population. Exercise is great but lack of it isn’t the obesity drover.

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In India they show vary serious warning message with photo on each cigarette box , but I did not see the same think in Japan (I am not sure about other countries)

There are massive warnings on the packs in New Zealand. I believe they can't use any branding at all on the packs in Australia.

Canada is currently trying to make all smokes have the same basic non branded packaging.

Re: Smoking around the world

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Price per pack or as the chart outlines 25 cigs, seems to be wrong for Canada.

A single pack can cost 11$ CAD to 15.50$ CAD, with cartons costing ~100$ or higher.

Where as in the US you can find 5-8$ pack, and cartons as low as $30$ USD.

The chart shows Canada and USA in the same price/color category.

Canada has been taxing more, and price keeps going up to curb smoking.

Currently trying to implement basic plain packaging.

I would say alot of teens are skipping cigs and straight to vaping. Where as many adults are quiting cigs or switching to vaping.

I also know of people who increased cannabis use to cut down/stop smoking cigs.

Someone else noted the effectiveness of nicotine... Which is misunderstood. I am someone who use to smoke a pack a day, to vaping for oral fixation.

My nicotine intake increased with vaping, but the satisfaction was not the same.

The satisfaction in cigs comes from mix in nicotine and increase in carbon monoxide in blood stream mainly.

If anyone is trying to quit, suggest reading: Alan Carr - easy way to quit smoking. Has helped many people including myself in understanding the sensations and what little control it has over you really.

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> Well at minimum we mostly know that alcohol and tobacco are on the higher level on the "harm" spectrum than other illegal drugs. I don’t know who “we” is, but don’t count me in that group. https://unitedrecoveryproject.com/10-most-dangerous-drugs/ And that’s by frequency. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/from-krokodi... That’s by potency. Sure. Don’t get me wrong. Nicotine is bad for you, so is Alcoh…

I'm not going to trust an article that says that using ketamine gives you HIV.

You probably shouldn't trust any information thrown at you without critical thinking (including the first three articles that came across my Google search).

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They can include the brand name in Australia, but the format is precisely specified including valid fonts and sizes. Names are also regulated so they can't imply a health claim (like afaik "Mild"). It would be instructive to do an image search for "Australian cigarette packaging" if you want to see exactly what they look like. I gather a lot of smokers like to use boxes to put their cigarette boxes in so they don't h…

I'd love to see plain packaging for everything. Sell your products on their actual merits, not just on whatever flashy colors you put on the packaging that gets discarded anyway.

Yes I think it's funny. Sometimes you'll see a new product on the shelf and then six months or a year later they'll've changed the packaging since the first one didn't work well enough. I guess those must be well funded products owned by big food companies.

And advertising that merely told you they have a product rather than showing unlikely circumstances - or at least had to depict the likely uses of the product. Car ads that sit in traffic rather than zooming through the city. Coke drinkers that struggle to stay awake in the office rather than take a ride in Santa's sleigh in a winter wonderland.

Fake news move over. You've already been outdone.

Re: Smoking around the world

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I wonder why in Australia, where cigarettes cost the most, the 'taxes as a share of price' is also not the highest on the map.

The tobacco companies just charging more and blaming the tax... Turkey, France, Chile, Finland have tax contribution of over 80% !!

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