Uber Hit with Cap as New York City Takes Lead in Crackdown

Post by TuringNYC » Wed, Aug 08, 2018, 9:33 PM UTC

pavel_lishin wrote: post #48

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Could you lie when hailing the cab and once inside say they misheard you and say the genuine destination? Not allowed I imagine but pretty hard to enforce that rule? (Genuine question, as a UK reaident I’ve little experience of the US taxi system and have always had excellent service from taxi firms in the UK - as a result I’ve never really understood the problem Uber is solving in the UK)

By law, they have to take you to where you want to go in the five boroughs, plus... Westchester and somewhere else. So the trick is to get into the cab before they figure out that they can speed off before you can grab their number and file a 311 complaint.

Post by bumholio » Wed, Aug 08, 2018, 9:35 PM UTC

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This is the most common objection, but it's not a very strong one, for at least two reasons: 1. There's no reason we couldn't provide exceptions for the kinds of vans and trucks that blue-collar workers need to drive into the city to make their livings. 2. There's no reason we couldn't offer income-based exceptions to people who absolutely cannot ride transit for this or that reason. As in all proposals to ration som…

If we start to allow those who can't afford the congestion pricing to get a discount on congestion pricing, do we really have congestion pricing? Or just a new proportional-to-income "driving tax" in addition to state, county, and city taxes?

Post by pavel_lishin » Wed, Aug 08, 2018, 9:35 PM UTC

TuringNYC wrote: post #61

pavel_lishin wrote: post #48

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By law, they have to take you to where you want to go in the five boroughs, plus... Westchester and somewhere else. So the trick is to get into the cab before they figure out that they can speed off before you can grab their number and file a 311 complaint.

This all makes sense. But i cant get my meek and honest mother to start acting like this. It requires a certain level of street smarts. It is almost a weekly issue for my mom, going into Manhattan for doctors' visits and the like. Uber solved many of these types of issues democratized access to taxi rides.

Post by bunderbunder » Wed, Aug 08, 2018, 9:37 PM UTC

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In NYC a tax would be wildly regressive and favor wealthy wall st users over all others. EDIT: congestion tax = more expensive mobility (incl taxis and ride sharing) = less affordability It's similar to local sales taxes: the 1% aren't affected by the cost of basic items, but the 99% are.

A congestion tax? That seems very unlikely to me, I would be shocked if car owners/users were not wealthier almost across the board.

Post by TuringNYC » Wed, Aug 08, 2018, 9:37 PM UTC

TuringNYC wrote: post #59

colinbartlett wrote: post #29

If the problem they are trying to solve is "too many vehicles" then we need a congestion tax. They should certainly not be limiting vehicles that are more likely to take multiple people with a Pool option. If the problem they are trying to solve is "drivers aren't making enough" then they should impose a minimum wage on drivers or force an actual employee relationship. If the problem they are trying to solve is a bai…

What if the problem is that you are mayor and got lots of campaign funding from the taxi lobby and now they want their pound of flesh? http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/don-big-bill-article-1.14... FROM ARTICLE "A review of all contributions to de Blasio raised by or made by taxi lawyers, owners and other associates in the 2013 campaign tallies $254,451, making them de Blasio’s biggest backers by far. Fleet owner Ro…