Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

Post by roywiggins » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 2:55 PM UTC

patrickg_zill wrote: post #49

fallingfrog wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "global cooling" thing is just throwing sand in our eyes- and you know it. Everything you've heard about global warming has been true the whole time, and you haven't been listening. I keep trying to wrap my head around the worldview of someone whose commitment to ideology is so powerful that they are willing to condemn their grandchildren to such suffering. It has to be some kind of religious thing.

Everyone who said during the 1970s that we should be afraid of global cooling are the same people who now demand that we believe them on global warming. Oceanic thermocline: explain the data we have and the mathematical model we have to cover this phenomenon. You can't, because you don't actually know. You just blindly believe it, don't you?

Post by jeffreyrogers » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 2:55 PM UTC

Scarblac wrote: post #56

i6mi6 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But 100-200 years is very little time for comparison isn't it? Is there any presumed data on what it was before that?

First you yourself start talking about "the last decade", and now one or two centuries isn't long enough. You also say you think the last decade seemed colder, the reply you got was that 16 of the 17 hottest years since recording began were after 2000. But you ignore that part of the reply. You are working for the forces that want to stop our mitigation of the problem, you are the enemy.

Post by spuz » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 2:58 PM UTC

blondie9x wrote: post #54

We all know by now CO2 and CH4 leads to a warmer planet. We also know what's driving greenhouse gas levels to rise across Earth. Contributors are deforestation, intensive animal farming, and primarily the combustion of carbon fossil fuels like coal, tar sands, oil, natural gas etc. But here is the underlying problem, despite us knowing how bad things are, (97+% of scientists who study this field agree we are causing…

Post by mark-r » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 3:03 PM UTC

akuji1993 wrote: post #45

megaman22 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pre-industrial levels when we were still coming out of significant cooling period. In every other period of human history, increased average temperatures have coincided with golden ages. Depending on where you peg your baseline for what "normal" temperatures are, the projections can look more or less scary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Warm_Period https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period I'm suspicio…

You realize what the current development looks like on a chart right? https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Post by abeppu » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 3:06 PM UTC

martythemaniak wrote: post #14

akuji1993 wrote: post #2

I'm absolutely certain with governments moving this slow right now, making small goals for 2050, getting courted by lobbies to not push through massive restrictions, probably most of these very dark predictions will come true. I, as a concerned citizen can do nothing against the corporations ruling our society, overruling politicians or outright controlling them directly. We are probably beyond any point of return. T…

People blaming governments and corporations are merely using faceless scapegoats because the truth is too terrible to behold. Normal every day people don't really believe in climate change, don't really want to do anything and in fact don't have the dimmest clue as to what needs to be done, nor how to do that. I think dealing with the above fact is too much for people, so instead we simplify using familiar models and…