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Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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Post by matte_black »

klipt wrote: post #37
matte_black wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually bought it quite sometime ago, but that means I have a lot of shares, and the more shares you have the more small movements in price start to add up to real money. Right now I’m down several thousands of dollars on NFLX, which could have easily been a few international vacations. It’s not the first time or last time stuff like this happens, but everything was rallying so nicely the past few days it’s a sham…

Stocks are volatile. But if you're investing for the long term it doesn't matter. Just stick your money in Vanguard index funds and forget about it apart from rebalancing once a year.

I took that advice several years ago when I started investing, but a big mistake I made was choosing a value fund instead of growth fund. Could have got so much more.

Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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Post by Spooky23 »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #26
wgerard wrote: post #8

Total anecdote: Kinda sucks when shows leave Netflix and don't get replaced; half the appeal of Netflix is the ability to quickly switch between Futurama and Always Sunny, and more importantly to be able to watch those shows on a platform that doesn't completely suck (FX's app has got to be one of the worst apps I've ever used). When "Parts Unknown" was about to leave Netflix, I really questioned whether it was worth…

Another anecdote: I’d have cancelled Netflix a while ago if my family wasn’t using it. Their UX has been on a steady decline for me: - Audio previews make it so I never want to browse for what to watch next. I hate having to fumble with my tv/home theatre remote because of this. - If you leave it hanging, the previews count towards a watch! Wow. God help you if you wanna make some popcorn. - Their sorts are always sh…

I share your observations, but wanted to add the their browsing system is just bonkers.

Discovery is impossible — imo they overoptimize for engagement and make it hard to explore the catalog. I find out about many new shows via PR placements in newspapers.

Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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Post by ehsankia »

Gustomaximus wrote: post #32
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another anecdote: I’d have cancelled Netflix a while ago if my family wasn’t using it. Their UX has been on a steady decline for me: - Audio previews make it so I never want to browse for what to watch next. I hate having to fumble with my tv/home theatre remote because of this. - If you leave it hanging, the previews count towards a watch! Wow. God help you if you wanna make some popcorn. - Their sorts are always sh…

I'd add to this their removal of star ranking and that percentage system. It's so geared to what they want to promote vs what is good TV.

I honestly don't care about what ranking they use as it gives good results. Thumbs up, 5 starts, 10 starts, %, it's all the same. What frustrates me is that even after changing it, the recommendations are still just as bad, so the whole change was basically pointless.

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Post by pasbesoin »

I'm finding significantly more to watch on (U.S.) Prime than Netflix streaming, these days.

Even Netflix' premium original content is getting monotonous. Where it -- or, more broadly, "Netflix" branded content -- is not simply getting stuffed full of "quantity over quality".

I've been feeling like I should have pulled the plug, a while back.

And yes, per other comments here, someone needs to... "have a talk with" their UI people. Not helpful, recent changes.

Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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Post by ehsankia »

nitwit005 wrote: post #40
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another anecdote: I’d have cancelled Netflix a while ago if my family wasn’t using it. Their UX has been on a steady decline for me: - Audio previews make it so I never want to browse for what to watch next. I hate having to fumble with my tv/home theatre remote because of this. - If you leave it hanging, the previews count towards a watch! Wow. God help you if you wanna make some popcorn. - Their sorts are always sh…

You can always just give up on their UI. I've seen my friends open their phones to search for a show to watch instead of using the Netflix UI to find something. There are multiple sites with listings, which suggests this is a fairly common practice.

Yep, I always open Netflix, tell myself my show should be near and start scrolling, then give up and use the search. It's so so bad. Now with the audio previews, I just bookmark shows and go straight to there. Their UI is completely useless.

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Post by wolco »

warent wrote: post #49

My girlfriend and I use Netflix to watch Star Trek, Chinese movies, and Indian/Bollywood films. That's it. Honestly the UX has been steadily getting better from my perspective and the film selection now is way beyond where it was ~3 years ago. Maybe I'm an outlier? It didn't occur to me that it might be an unpopular opinion to say that Netflix is actually good

I'm trying out HBO/Movie network. Once you get through 15 mostly goid series the content gets very thin. For half the price netflix has more original and unique content and provides more value at half the codt. I like the variety I wish the UI promoted it a little better

Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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Post by alister »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #26
wgerard wrote: post #8

Total anecdote: Kinda sucks when shows leave Netflix and don't get replaced; half the appeal of Netflix is the ability to quickly switch between Futurama and Always Sunny, and more importantly to be able to watch those shows on a platform that doesn't completely suck (FX's app has got to be one of the worst apps I've ever used). When "Parts Unknown" was about to leave Netflix, I really questioned whether it was worth…

Another anecdote: I’d have cancelled Netflix a while ago if my family wasn’t using it. Their UX has been on a steady decline for me: - Audio previews make it so I never want to browse for what to watch next. I hate having to fumble with my tv/home theatre remote because of this. - If you leave it hanging, the previews count towards a watch! Wow. God help you if you wanna make some popcorn. - Their sorts are always sh…

> no way to turn off captions for some of their shows

There are all sorts of inconsistencies with subtitles and dubbing. For example, suppose a show has options for 5 languages, but not Portuguese. If you switch your profile to Portuguese (i.e., by logging to the Netflix website and selecting Portuguese as your main language), then lo and behold Portuguese appears as a choice for subtitles and audio for many shows where it wasn't offered before.

Another irritation when trying to learn a foreign language is that foreign subtitles and the foreign audio often don't match. They are both correct translations, but it's as if they were translated by entirely different people. Maybe Netflix gets the subtitling done by one agency, and then later, if there's enough demand for the show, they get dubbing done by another agency (but don't update the subtitles to match the new translation).

Yet another oddity is that, on rare occasion, they will take away a language choice they offered for a show. A show might have, say, Polish as a audio option, but the next day it's gone. Completely puzzling.

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Post by undefined1 »

wavefunction wrote: post #59
Chazprime wrote: post #18

It seems as if Netflix is focusing on quantity instead of quality lately...their original content isn’t as compelling as it used to be.

Sacred Games and Secret City (among others) are far more well-done than most other recent offerings from other providers imnsho. Hulu has The Handmaid's Tale and HBO has Westworld but that's about it.

HBO also has Game of Thrones, Silicon Valley, John Oliver, good documentaries from time to time...

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Post by dfee »

pkaye wrote: post #51
xienze wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think they’re replacing their content on purpose, they have no choice. Around ten years ago when Netflix streaming started to take off studios thought they were taking Netflix for a ride, selling new-fangled “streaming” rights for old catalogue films that otherwise weren’t making much money. Now the game has changed and Netflix effectively can’t afford to renew these contracts, so little by little the stuff p…

I've realized the same. I'm always surprised they are part of the FAANG stocks given how little they have control they have over their catalog.

I took the N out and realized that would never fly. As Netflix is the odd duck of the group, maybe some banking associate put it in there just to give some ferocity to the acronym (I.e. engineered a backronyn).
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