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Using Apple’s New Controls to Limit a Teenager’s iPhone Time

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Re: Using Apple’s New Controls to Limit a Teenager’s iPhone Time

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Post by wink »

reaperducer wrote: post #34
thermodynthrway wrote: post #16

You would think a teenager with a job could just get their own phone plan. I'm kinda thankful helicopter parenting is being undermined by technology (internet+Uber), maybe one day we will get back to reasonable parenting practices they had back in the 60's-70's. We don't let our kids roam the neighborhood anymore even though it's a magnitude safer than it was decades ago. I don't understand how we expect kids to star…

I'm kinda thankful helicopter parenting is being undermined by technology I wish. I know people in their late 30's who are on their parent's cell phone plan, and have tried (unsuccessfully) to get on their health insurance.

I know tons of people here in Germany who have had their cars officially running with their parents' insurance well into their late 20s (basically as long as possible because it was simply like half the price), at least until some years ago.

We also have this health insurance thing where you can be insured with your parents up until 25 I guess, if you're still going to school or university.

Maybe your point is "people should stand on their own feet at some point" and maybe I'm not weighing 20s vs 30s enough.. but to me that simply sounds like saving money. Hell, if I had had my parents living close to me in my late 20s and being able to save money just by having some contracts in common, I would've done it.

Re: Using Apple’s New Controls to Limit a Teenager’s iPhone Time

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Post by ycombinete »

danso wrote: post #8

It's interesting to me, though not surprising, the the author is so surprised that a software/UI feature could be successful in reducing usage. As if being addicted to phone/software were an inextricable psychological/physiological characteristic/flaw. I used to use Reddit and Facebook a lot more regularly -- more than daily. But ever since I changed my password to something that I can't recall without a password man…

On top of deleting all my social media, I gave my wife my Ipad, which had a great impact on my media usage in general, as there are now less places in the house/life where I can engage with really intense media.

Re: Using Apple’s New Controls to Limit a Teenager’s iPhone Time

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Post by Teknoman117 »

For me, the thing that triggers my phone usage for the most part is notifications. So, I ended up disabling all of them except for a few people I need to be able to hear from (family) and slack messages from my work org. I look at my phone little enough that my OnePlus 3 will last two days.

Now, the most anoying thing about this approach is when apps don't want you to disable notifications and constantly complain about it. Facebook Messenger for instance. You have a banner always visible in the list of chats that says "notifications are off, tap here to enable.". I KNOW they are off, I did it on purpose, and there's no way of getting rid of it.

Re: Using Apple’s New Controls to Limit a Teenager’s iPhone Time

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Post by cm2187 »

danso wrote: post #8

It's interesting to me, though not surprising, the the author is so surprised that a software/UI feature could be successful in reducing usage. As if being addicted to phone/software were an inextricable psychological/physiological characteristic/flaw. I used to use Reddit and Facebook a lot more regularly -- more than daily. But ever since I changed my password to something that I can't recall without a password man…

You only really need twitter if you want to stay up to date with the events of the day by the minute. Unless your profession dictates it why not stick to reading the news or hn in your own time?

Re: Using Apple’s New Controls to Limit a Teenager’s iPhone Time

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Post by duckerude »

Teknoman117 wrote: post #63

For me, the thing that triggers my phone usage for the most part is notifications. So, I ended up disabling all of them except for a few people I need to be able to hear from (family) and slack messages from my work org. I look at my phone little enough that my OnePlus 3 will last two days. Now, the most anoying thing about this approach is when apps don't want you to disable notifications and constantly complain abo…

Can't you disable them on the system level? On my Android device, sliding a notification slightly to the side reveals a button to block all of the app's notifications.

Re: Using Apple’s New Controls to Limit a Teenager’s iPhone Time

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Post by icebraining »

Angostura wrote: post #36
thermodynthrway wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see it being any worse than the TV shows and consoles of years past. Or the arcade and bowling alleys of years before that. It's just the newest big time killer. All of those mediums are designed to be addictive and I don't think increased convenience makes it much worse

You can't play consoles on the bus, in the street, at the table, on the toilet, in class, in the playground, at the library, in the cafe etc.

Handheld consoles have been around for over three decades.

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Post by icebraining »

speg wrote: post #47
chris_mc wrote: post #5

> “It was just a pattern for me — to open my phone and I would have nowhere to go,” she said. “I was just looking at a screen. It was kind of weird, so I’m trying not to do that.” I found out I did the exact same thing when I deleted my Reddit account and set limits here on HN. I used to find myself unlocking my phone, looking at it, opening Google News to the same old articles, then locking it and doing something el…

I can’t wait to set limit for Reddit. I got rid of Facebook and Twitter last year and it’s so much better. Heck, why don’t I just delete it right now…

Then there's HN...

Re: Using Apple’s New Controls to Limit a Teenager’s iPhone Time

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Post by sturmeh »

I feel like this is a oddly biased study, as there are two major influencing factors that would have changed Sophie's behaviour.

1. The limits, creating a hard limit, obviously screen time is going to reduce, you can also make my battery a 10th of the size and achieve the same result, it doesn't mean I'm better off or happier.

2. The surveillance. The writer, as a complete stranger to the teenager (for the most part) tracking her daily usage AND commenting on it whilst sharing it with her mother, is enough to change her behaviour dramatically.

I'd like to see how well self imposed limits work, and if there's any beneficial change people notice.

Re: Using Apple’s New Controls to Limit a Teenager’s iPhone Time

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Post by saagarjha »

duckerude wrote: post #65
Teknoman117 wrote: post #63

For me, the thing that triggers my phone usage for the most part is notifications. So, I ended up disabling all of them except for a few people I need to be able to hear from (family) and slack messages from my work org. I look at my phone little enough that my OnePlus 3 will last two days. Now, the most anoying thing about this approach is when apps don't want you to disable notifications and constantly complain abo…

Can't you disable them on the system level? On my Android device, sliding a notification slightly to the side reveals a button to block all of the app's notifications.

Yes, that's what he did. The issue was that Messenger would detect that he had turned off notifications for the app and nag him to turn it back on in-app.
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