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Chicago Is America's Last Remaining Affordable Skyscraper City

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Re: Chicago Is America's Last Remaining Affordable Skyscraper City

#62

I've never heard of this publication, I'm definitely going to pay them $5/mo to read this one article. Wait, no I'm not: http://archive.is/pLqLI

Title probably should also read, "To Chicago with love: Emanuel is a housing policy pioneer". Edit: ... versus the current, "Chicago Is America's Last Remaining Affordable Skyscraper City"

I think they are A/Bing different headlines.

Re: Chicago Is America's Last Remaining Affordable Skyscraper City

#63

I'm going to dispute this claim. Pittsburgh, PA has skyscrapers[1], defined as any building with or over 40 floors, and is more affordable then Chicago[2]. In fact Atlanta, GA also fits in this category as well. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_P... [2] https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...

I didn't read the entire article and then got blocked by a paywall but I do not believe "skyscraper city" is well defined, so not hard to dispute. According to this list https://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?10=1 Chicago has the second most skyscrapers of any US city. Philadelphia is #7 on that list and is still affordable. If Philly is not considered a "skyscraper city" than that means there were only 6 or less of them…

Philly would actually be #8 on that list if all non-US cities were removed. But still.

Re: Chicago Is America's Last Remaining Affordable Skyscraper City

#64
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're making me miss my hometown. Everything there is just amazing, I love the city and the people in it. The people are so kind and the transportation is stellar, and you can listen to Fred & Angi on your way to work.

Hey, I can help with your home sickness. It's brutal winter here for 8 months followed by a manic, hot four months of summer. No spring or fall. It takes two hours to get to anything that could reasonably be called nature. The people are great, but their main form of socializing is heavy drinking. It's cold? Let's drink about it. It's hot? Let's drink about it. It's great, but no city is perfect.

The cold keeps bug size small, we don't have snakes or deadly spiders, and the change of seasons invigorates the mind.

Re: Chicago Is America's Last Remaining Affordable Skyscraper City

#65
post #14

I've been saying this for years . The math is pretty straightforward: as cost of living skyrockets in most cities, any city that has the infrastructure and housing to accommodate large numbers of people will win the race. So for example, at this point San Francisco and the Bay Area are in fact losing the race even though surrounding economy is booming; all because housing is lacking and incredibly unaffordable and th…

This is the opposite of what is happening if you look at the population changes of their respective MSAs. Chicago's is barely growing and SF added an estimated 9% to the population from 2010-2017. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_statistic...

Re: Chicago Is America's Last Remaining Affordable Skyscraper City

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't read the entire article and then got blocked by a paywall but I do not believe "skyscraper city" is well defined, so not hard to dispute. According to this list https://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?10=1 Chicago has the second most skyscrapers of any US city. Philadelphia is #7 on that list and is still affordable. If Philly is not considered a "skyscraper city" than that means there were only 6 or less of them…

Philly would actually be #8 on that list if all non-US cities were removed. But still.

Ah, I missed Honolulu.

Re: Chicago Is America's Last Remaining Affordable Skyscraper City

#67
post #24

I'm going to dispute this claim. Pittsburgh, PA has skyscrapers[1], defined as any building with or over 40 floors, and is more affordable then Chicago[2]. In fact Atlanta, GA also fits in this category as well. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_P... [2] https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...

The tallest building in Iowa is 44 stories in Des Moines, and it's far more affordable than any of the three. But I would never call DM a skyscraper city. EDIT: Downvoters, what's up? Do you object to "Tallest building in IA is 44 stories" or "DM is more affordable" or "DM is not a skyscraper city"? None of these are particularly controversial, and the first two are empirically true.

The argument here is about how zoning can create dense cities with tall buildings in an affordable way. At a fifth of the population density of course Des Moins is going to have cheaper land.

Re: Chicago Is America's Last Remaining Affordable Skyscraper City

#68
post #22
post #7

Only if you mean "Skyscraper city with lower prices because of higher crime".

I would encourage you to venture over to Wikipedia and sort the violent crime rates per 100,000 people[1]. Chicago is 28th, behind Oakland, Houston, Atlanta, and Miami. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

It is #8 on that list if you sort by homicide rate though. I'm not saying that makes OP's comment accurate as they did just say "higher crime" and not specifically homicide rate. But I do believe that blending murder rates with property crime rates gets a little muddy. The only "skyscraper city" that the article mentions that ranks higher in homicide rate is Washington D.C.

Re: Chicago Is America's Last Remaining Affordable Skyscraper City

#70

I have only two problems with Chicago: 1. Winter 2. It's in Illinois. Which will take a century to dig itself out of a century of being the most corrupt state government in the US.

Lake effects winters are nothing to scoff at. Cold temperatures, wind, and excessive snow/freezing rain make for some really miserable times.
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