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Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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Re: Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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Post by 394549 »

j88439h84 wrote: post #56
394549 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why so negative. I like how Europeans/Chinese/Everyone stands behind their companies and expect them to succeed globally. USA on other hand is bent on destroying/defaming their own. Companies aren't national sports teams. You shouldn't "stand behind them" unless they deserve it.

Sports teams are companies.

> Sports teams are companies.

Not the national teams in the Olympics/World Cup, which I think is the more relevant comparison when we're talking about "standing behind a nation's companies." Less relevantly, neither are college teams.

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Post by jimmaswell »

princeb wrote: post #3

i sure wouldn't mind some vc-subsidized underground trains. maybe if they became competitive rapid transit operators as well, the world could become a better place

Elon's Boring Company's working on something like that, too. I hope that venture succeeds.

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Post by usaar333 »

gnicholas wrote: post #57
Spivak wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, the ADA requirement for transportation is that a company must provide "equivalent service." https://www.transit.dot.gov/regulations-and-guidance/civil-r... The relevant requirements are that the following must be equivalent for everyone regardless of disability. (2) Response time (if the system is demand responsive); (f) Reservations capability (if the system is demand responsive); (g) Any constraints on capaci…

The response time requirement could create an interesting tension between ADA proponents and environmental advocates. That is, if Uber/Lyft need to have vehicles that are 2 minutes away for passengers with motorized scooters/chairs whenever they have vehicles that are 2 minutes away for ambulatory passengers, this will require having many larger vehicles. These vehicles pollute more (and if they're EVs some day, they…

ADA already forces decisions to be made contrary to environmental concerns. Added construction being a key one.

IMO, ADA is a great example of overbearing government regulation. It doesn't leave much room for "reasonable" accommodations and dictates solutions. (Case in point, my condo building can't use a portion of trash rooms as recycle storage, which gives large environmental benefits, because of wheelchair accessibility rules.. but why does this matter on floors where wheelchair bound residents don't live?)

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Post by woolvalley »

jacknews wrote: post #39

I get the pitch. Customer wishes to go from A to B. Ride-sharing app will plan the trip and charge for each leg, because they own them all. Personally, I don't think it's ever going to work that way, at least not on a single locked-in platform, and I think this is all hot air, fed by hot quantitative-easing cash.

Can't you see the dream of automated synchronized carpool pickups from metro train stations?

I don't think uber will ever make it's own metro lines, but I can really see how it could be made to work well together.

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Post by 394549 »

dominotw wrote: post #60
394549 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why so negative. I like how Europeans/Chinese/Everyone stands behind their companies and expect them to succeed globally. USA on other hand is bent on destroying/defaming their own. Companies aren't national sports teams. You shouldn't "stand behind them" unless they deserve it.

uber and lyft deserve it. I use lyft multiple times/week.

>>> Why so negative. I like how Europeans/Chinese/Everyone stands behind their companies and expect them to succeed globally. USA on other hand is bent on destroying/defaming their own.

> uber and lyft deserve it. I use lyft multiple times/week.

I don't. Why do you think I should stand behind them, and overlook their ethical lapses, because I'm an American?

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Post by kradeelav »

usaar333 wrote: post #10
cozzyd wrote: post #5

I wonder how Lyft and Uber have avoided ADA requirements.

Both offer wheelchair accessible cars. I'm not sure what the formal ADA rule should be on them, but offering these services seems to work out for everyone.

Negative. I'm physically disabled and not in one of their ~3 select cities (still a large city, mind you; ATL is hardly small) with that additional 'service' and the friction to get a workable vehicle is next to impossible.

Of course, it's obvious that's working as intended - providing disability services is often treated by businesses as nothing but a cost center. Never-mind the fact that the elderly would be the perfect early users for comparable services + autonomous vehicles.

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Post by maxyme »

kbyatnal wrote: post #58
toomuchtodo wrote: post #47

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Which coincidentally just removed the ability to book Uber trips in app.

Not sure what you're seeing, it still works for me.

You used to be able to book rides without leaving the Maps app, now it launches the Uber app as it always has with Lyft

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Post by oftenwrong »

wybiral wrote: post #48

I live in a city with a decent bus system, bike lanes, and where it's never too cold to walk. Never used Uber but I have on occasion hailed a taxi or taken a local ride share alternative in a pinch.

I have taken nice walks at -20 degrees. You just need adequate clothing. At that temperature, you should avoid exposed skin.

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Post by Spivak »

usaar333 wrote: post #63
gnicholas wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The response time requirement could create an interesting tension between ADA proponents and environmental advocates. That is, if Uber/Lyft need to have vehicles that are 2 minutes away for passengers with motorized scooters/chairs whenever they have vehicles that are 2 minutes away for ambulatory passengers, this will require having many larger vehicles. These vehicles pollute more (and if they're EVs some day, they…

ADA already forces decisions to be made contrary to environmental concerns. Added construction being a key one. IMO, ADA is a great example of overbearing government regulation. It doesn't leave much room for "reasonable" accommodations and dictates solutions. (Case in point, my condo building can't use a portion of trash rooms as recycle storage, which gives large environmental benefits, because of wheelchair access…

The fact that people consider it 'added' rather than the bare minimum is partly why the ADA is prescriptive. Also, because it would be incredibly burdensome for someone with a disability to have to figure out how each building does their 'accommodations'.

> why does this matter on floors where wheelchair bound residents don't live?

Because residents aren't the only people who could be using that trash room. Because a resident could be injured while living there.

I think it's weird how the default experience is apparently to be exclusionary.

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