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IRC will never get popular again. Server-based history and connections shared across devices are just too useful.
You should try irccloud. Or one of the many clients that do this.
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Slack is today's version of a modern accessible IRC client. It doesn't preclude from the issues of slack being solved by another group. edit: For the IRC uninitiated who enjoy drive-by downvoting: Slack is IRC-inspired - the concept of channels, usernames, private messaging and bots.... in slack is almost all directly inherited from IRC.
Slack deprecated their IRC and XMPP gateways, so its no longer an IRC client.
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> first class support for emoji I'm sorry. Even in 2018 I cannot take seriously any claim that "support for emoji" is being used to make business case decisions.
Having used slack at a business, emoji reactions to comments are an extremely valuable business feature -- they allow people to react without having to make a full-sized comment, which helps keep conversations compact.
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Slack is today's version of a modern accessible IRC client. It doesn't preclude from the issues of slack being solved by another group. edit: For the IRC uninitiated who enjoy drive-by downvoting: Slack is IRC-inspired - the concept of channels, usernames, private messaging and bots.... in slack is almost all directly inherited from IRC.
Slack deprecated their IRC and XMPP gateways, so its no longer an IRC client.
Besides taking my comment literally (I now have clarified), lets look at it from a higher level:
The concept of channels, usernames, private messaging in Slack is almost all directly inherited from IRC. There is some great new functionality on top of this core, IRC inspired experience.
As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…
So... you want to rebuild Slack? Why not just use Slack. I don't imagine the vast majority of people still using IRC want or need any of the things you listed as "common needs of today." I've been using IRC almost daily for a couple decades now and can't think of a single instance of someone saying "you know what we need? persistent logging and profile pictures and a graphical picture of poop!" Don't do this. You're…
Just like you don't hear me wishing that PHP or Fortran had certain features.
It's not very good evidence.
IRC will never get popular again. Server-based history and connections shared across devices are just too useful.
1. https://www.quakenet.org/articles/99-trust-is-not-transitive...
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You should try irccloud. Or one of the many clients that do this.
Now teach the other hundreds of thousands of ex-IRC users how to set up their own bouncer servers and get them to actually stick with it for any amount of time.
IRC has deficiencies that ensure that only a small cabal of power users will endure it. I prefer to be part of communities that are more accessible to more walks of life than the person who was bothered to install irssi on his spare EC2 instance.
People who suggest that IRC is the pinnacle of chat really seem out of touch to me. For example, look how every Twitch streamer and subreddit have a Discord and almost never an IRC channel.
IRC will never get popular again. Server-based history and connections shared across devices are just too useful.
Of course I mean 'very easy' for someone who is used to the technical side of things. A normal user of GUI webapps likely isn't interested.
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So... you want to rebuild Slack? Why not just use Slack. I don't imagine the vast majority of people still using IRC want or need any of the things you listed as "common needs of today." I've been using IRC almost daily for a couple decades now and can't think of a single instance of someone saying "you know what we need? persistent logging and profile pictures and a graphical picture of poop!" Don't do this. You're…
You don't hear people saying things like "I want to be able to send/receive messages while offline on IRC" because they just use something else. Just like you don't hear me wishing that PHP or Fortran had certain features. It's not very good evidence.
Almost. They still use IRC - but they extend functionality "outside of IRC" with bots. You don't hear this because people make bots with .tell commands that supplement this functionality. The next time a user logs in the bot will /msg them something like "You have 1 message. Use .read list to see a list of unread messages" then they ".read 1" they can then .reply or send their own .tell
Anything IRC "needs" gets supplemented by a bot that takes care of the functionality.