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We worked with both AWS container solutions and GKE and find GKE far superior. We had to build Skycap as deployment solution for our applications on top of it but the end result is an amazingly simple system delivering HA and robustness we never could have imagined with any other solution as easily.
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And plenty of startups that choose between AWS and GCP at a point when those numbers are plenty distinguishable, even though later on they'll become those organizations.
And they will all die pretty quickly for running their infrastructure on a pre emptible instance to save a few dollars. By the way, startups get $100k free credits on each of the major clouds.
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The Google GKE offering can operate with a single g1-small worker. That's $0.0257/hr or $0.0070/hr preemptible. $5/mo minimum* This is not even the same ballpark. *(to be fair, the $5/mo minimum does not include a private network and a load balancer, and you will almost definitely need both in order to actually do anything with a cluster.)
You're thinking like a human. There are plenty of organizations where $5/mo and $150/mo are essentially indistinguishable and would not affect decision making in any way.
$144/month is nothing if it means someone else can manage some of the parts of Kubernetes.
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And they will all die pretty quickly for running their infrastructure on a pre emptible instance to save a few dollars. By the way, startups get $100k free credits on each of the major clouds.
How? How can I get that free $100k credit
It sounds like you must have taken some investment to qualify. But I believe my friend received the credit, and I have no idea if his business has received any investments or participates in any accelerator program.
It is a program (several different programs actually), you apply for it. This looks like a good place to start.[2]
If you don't think you qualify after reading that, might be worth talking to Arun Gupta anyway. He is the Principal Open Source Technologist. He was all over the Reddit thread answering questions about EKS today.[3] Super classy.
It looks like they offer $1000-$100000 depending on how fast you want to spend it and what stage you're at.[4] "AWS Activate - Portfolio Plus" is the program talked about, that offers $100k credit that expires in a year. If you don't qualify for that, you probably qualify for either the $1000 or the $15000.
[1]: https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-get-100-000-credit-on-Amazon...
[2]: https://aws.amazon.com/startups/
[3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/8osr8c/amazon_eks_is_n...
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AWS is 10x larger than GCP so power and compute capacity are really not the issue here, especially for a product that just launched. There's also no reason AWS couldn't adopt the same lightweight kubernetes master processes that GKE uses after all this time.
> public renewable energy footprint When electricity is the sole marginal cost of keeping a node powered up from your pool of available machines that can be powered on and off on-demand, these particular words actually mean a lot. I think the point is that GCP can afford to keep some nodes online even when they don't belong to anyone and just eat the cost. (Eg. those renewable resources like wind and the sun just don…
I'm thinking specifically of masters for smaller clusters, where the fixed overhead costs of the control plane are relatively high compared to the node count. On larger clusters, the masters will be beefier, sure, but your customer will be paying for enough nodes to make up for their cost and the fixed overhead is more "diluted".
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> Do you think management nodes are free? ... Google['s management nodes] might be free Indeed they are. Why do you think that is? It could be that they're a great big loss-leader for GKE, or that the costs of GKE management nodes are amortized into the per-cluster-node costs. But neither of these seem to be true. (The pricing of GKE management nodes before they made them free was negligible; and GKE nodes don't cost…
Google Kubernetes Engine has announced general availability (GA) of "free" highly-available (HA) control plane support yesterday. You can read more here: https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2018/06/Regional-cluste... disclaimer: I work at Google.
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You're thinking like a human. There are plenty of organizations where $5/mo and $150/mo are essentially indistinguishable and would not affect decision making in any way.
That's $150/mo before you even launch a single worker tho. I don't know about you, but I'd personally rather pay the $5 if I don't need a serious cluster yet. How much in actual absolute dollars do you think this is going to cost you, just in order to figure out exactly how it works, and what other AWS widgets you'll also need to pay for in order to use it effectively? I am a human, basically looking for a stepping s…
Amazon has made a substantial investment in Kubernetes here and that is nothing to shrug at. They are entitled (and justified) to recoup it. It's fair to say that K8S is not for lightweights, too.
AWS provides a fairly generous free tier and they are also justified to extract some payment from every user of their services that derives some non-negligible value. If you're using Kubernetes and you're not getting any value out of it, I think it's also fair to say that you're doing it wrong.
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AFAIK, none of the big three cloud providers (GKE,AKS,EKS) lets you do this.
When you deploy Kubernetes "add-ons" like Helm's tillerd or https://github.com/jetstack/cert-manager/ , the active containers of those get deployed to the management node, no?