Earlier quoted context omitted.
On what experiences with EU bureaucracy do you base your statement?
On what experiences with EU bureaucracy do you base your question?
GDPR: Don't Panic
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Re: GDPR: Don't Panic
#62This doesn't consider some factors that dictate how strong any company will experience their firehose of GDPR requests to be: - how incentivised people are to make GDPR subject access requests of the company (how angry, confused, hostile curious they are) - how easy it is for them to make requests (entirely manual vs. online service) - wildcard factors (internet flash mobs bent on vengeance against a corporate) There…
This sounds like the arguments that organisations make against freedom of information laws. There is that risk, but what is the alternative? There doesn't seem to be a middle ground to me - either people can make subject access requests or they can't.
And yes, civil servants did use those arguments to try and stop FOI. They lost because ultimately they pay themselves out of tax revenues, and when you force people to buy something the bar for denying them information about how that money is used is a lot higher.
This doesn't apply in the case of companies and especially not job candidates.
Re: GDPR: Don't Panic
#63This doesn't consider some factors that dictate how strong any company will experience their firehose of GDPR requests to be: - how incentivised people are to make GDPR subject access requests of the company (how angry, confused, hostile curious they are) - how easy it is for them to make requests (entirely manual vs. online service) - wildcard factors (internet flash mobs bent on vengeance against a corporate) There…
Re: GDPR: Don't Panic
#64This doesn't consider some factors that dictate how strong any company will experience their firehose of GDPR requests to be: - how incentivised people are to make GDPR subject access requests of the company (how angry, confused, hostile curious they are) - how easy it is for them to make requests (entirely manual vs. online service) - wildcard factors (internet flash mobs bent on vengeance against a corporate) There…
This sounds like the arguments that organisations make against freedom of information laws. There is that risk, but what is the alternative? There doesn't seem to be a middle ground to me - either people can make subject access requests or they can't.
Re: GDPR: Don't Panic
#65The problem of multiple ambiguities in GDPR hasn't really been addressed here. Also, must be nice to live in a country where the regulator is as benevolent and reasonable as is described in this article. I think it's ok for foreigners to be skeptical of this promise, as the article implies that this reasonableness is not encoded in law.
Re: GDPR: Don't Panic
#66Exactly. People try to explain to me how it is impossible to comply and usually it turns out that it would be easy. I think the problem most of time that people misunderstanding the requirements or not reading GDPR (not even TLDR versions).
There is no "TLDR" of the GDPR. It has to all be read, understood and complied with. This is basic legal compliance, and is not at all easy for a small business.
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#67>> Yes.
> Can you tell me their email address?
>> No.
Re: GDPR: Don't Panic
#68I'm not sure about the point regarding the DPD. EU Directives themselves don't have teeth, but they're supposed to be transposed into national laws - e.g. the DPA in the UK - and would be enforced nationally. A regulation comes into law across the EU, but is still often transposed, and the enforcement mechanism (to begin with) is still basically the same. He's right that the DPD was not well-adhered to, though.
Re: GDPR: Don't Panic
#69Exactly. People try to explain to me how it is impossible to comply and usually it turns out that it would be easy. I think the problem most of time that people misunderstanding the requirements or not reading GDPR (not even TLDR versions).
There is no "TLDR" of the GDPR. It has to all be read, understood and complied with. This is basic legal compliance, and is not at all easy for a small business.
Audit can take some time and have a real impact on your business though, so i'm not saying everything is perfect. But to me, audit is the only thing you have to be really afraid of, not fines.
Re: GDPR: Don't Panic
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Am in EU, am involved in some compliance stuff and have talked to plenty others at other companies, and it really does seem to be a nothing-to-see-here for all companies except the sleezy ones.
Is there even a single thing forbidden under GDPR that wasn't already forbidden before in at least half a dozen member states? In that case, it makes everything easier except for ignoring requirements.
German courts already considered a EULA or "check box to consent and get thing" a non-binding consent (to some extend).
Largely, if you are running afoul the GDPR in germany there is basically two options A) you rely on adsense a lot and B) you ran afoul the previous laws already.
So, overall, I would say that yeah, most of the stuff forbidden by the GDPR was already forbidden. The GDPR grants you new rights and requires corporations to ensure compliance however, that's new.
Plus the teeth in form of pretty hefty fine limits. Which is good IMO.