If a company doesn't hire you, then by definition they have determined that your time is of no value to them, so it would literally be a waste of their resources to interact with you further.
Not necessarily. Companies should be assuming false negatives in their process and should be encouraging reapplication in most cases. It is in their best interests to provide feedback to the developer and a good experience.
Agree here. The application/hiring experience makes a lot of difference. This is cliche, but it shows a company's culture and values.
> Yeah, the tendency to 'ghost' people is a huge problem in society now, and companies seem to prefer it to just saying 'no'. What do you think this is attributable to? Is it that technology has shortened our attention spans so much that we no longer encode the memories of recent experiences?
If a company doesn't hire you, then by definition they have determined that your time is of no value to them, so it would literally be a waste of their resources to interact with you further.
This may be internally consistent, but what of applicants following up on their applications? A sizable portion of the workflow believes - and is advised by job search coaches - that the correct response to being ghosted is to follow up on the application. Do you not waste more time fielding and diverting followup calls than simply sending (at minimum) a quick form email to remove all doubt?
No the _worst_ is when they offer you the job verbally on the phone and in between the phone call and the written offer they give the job to someone else.
I've had this happen. I even filled out the new hire paperwork. It was devastating at the time but, in retrospect, it would have been a wrong turn for me personally and professionally. And
When I was job hunting I sincerely appreciated any rejection letter at any stage of the process, be it automated or personal. Obviously an offer letter would be better but the absolute worst is hearing nothing back. We should be praising the companies that take the time (or implement the automated process) to send the rejection letters and not leave us hanging.
No the _worst_ is when they offer you the job verbally on the phone and in between the phone call and the written offer they give the job to someone else.
I can one up you. A couple of years ago I started looking for a job after a disastrous one. I ended up doing 3 interviews and a take home assignment for a UK company looking to relocate some people back to Greece and open offices here.
Then I went ahead and negotiated my salary.
Went ahead and stopped my job search after that and waited to be notified about my start date once the offices have been set up. Didn't follow up on a couple of other opportunities either because I was certain this was a good fit for me.
A month and a half later, after some pinging on my part, I ended up learning that the plans to open an office here were scrapped and I was welcome to work from the London office, as if I would feel comfortable moving abroad to work for an employer like that.
When I was job hunting I sincerely appreciated any rejection letter at any stage of the process, be it automated or personal. Obviously an offer letter would be better but the absolute worst is hearing nothing back. We should be praising the companies that take the time (or implement the automated process) to send the rejection letters and not leave us hanging.
I have no problem being ghosted. The thing that really pisses me off, though, is receiving a rejection letter six weeks after the fact. I got one today. It's okay: I got the message. I'm already gainfully employed elsewhere. You didn't need to send me a little reminder that I'm not good enough for your cool kids' club.
I've got one better. Submitted an application for a company, didn't hear back. Got a new job in the meantime and about 2 months after I submitted my application, I got an e-mail from their head of HR, like not from a no-reply address but a persons specific e-mail at the company, saying they really enjoyed their time interviewing me and thanking me for coming out to their office. Only I never did any of that, never had received anything outside of the original confirmation e-mail that they had received my application. Probably the strangest experience I've had while looking for jobs. I actually e-mailed the person back in a reply letting him know he never actually interviewed me nor did I ever visit the office. His response was something like "Thanks for the heads up." Didn't even apologize.
I've had this happen. I even filled out the new hire paperwork. It was devastating at the time but, in retrospect, it would have been a wrong turn for me personally and professionally. And
I am sorry, no company should do that.
You know-- getting that job would have ruined my life. It sucked at the time, but I regret nothing. Thank you casino Morongo :)
When I was job hunting I sincerely appreciated any rejection letter at any stage of the process, be it automated or personal. Obviously an offer letter would be better but the absolute worst is hearing nothing back. We should be praising the companies that take the time (or implement the automated process) to send the rejection letters and not leave us hanging.
Obviously an offer letter would be better but the absolute worst is hearing nothing back. No. One thing that's worse is they schedule a follow-up call, then blow off the call. Happened to me.
Obviously an offer letter would be better but the absolute worst is hearing nothing back. No. One thing that's worse is they schedule a follow-up call, then blow off the call. Happened to me.
Oracle did that to me. Twice.
Yeah, but... Its Oracle. Did you think that their evil didn't permeate down to a personal level or something?
Yeah, the tendency to 'ghost' people is a huge problem in society now, and companies seem to prefer it to just saying 'no'. But it's especially bad when you've already gone through most of the application process beforehand. Being ghosted after a job application? Annoying, but possibly understandable if the demand was really high. Being ghosted after going through multiple interviews, a coding test and everyone basic…
> Yeah, the tendency to 'ghost' people is a huge problem in society now, and companies seem to prefer it to just saying 'no'. What do you think this is attributable to? Is it that technology has shortened our attention spans so much that we no longer encode the memories of recent experiences?
Interactions are low touch and large in number. Since relationships are weak ghosting is seen as acceptable and frankly reaching out to every person may take too much effort. Not saying it's okay because I hate it too. Just explaining this phenomenon that appears to have been caused by digital communications.