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Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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Post by chongli »

gok wrote: post #56
chongli wrote: post #23

I would love this feature if they found a way to implement it without draining the battery by listening constantly and trying to recognize 'Hey Siri' from all the background noise. It's especially bad when you play music nearby!

Are you sure you’re actually getting your battery drained from this? The phrase spotting happens in a super low power processor which can run without the rest of the phone doing anything.

I remember one day I played music through some speakers connected to my phone for about 6 hours and the battery usage showed 40% for music and 40% for Siri. I put two and two together and figured the music was keeping Siri awake.

Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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Post by Art9681 »

aaronmiler wrote: post #28
brd529 wrote: post #25

My biggest problem with the homepod is that my 5 year old has learned that he can turn on _any song he wants_ whenever he wants by yelling "hey siri." He loves it! He yells at the dinner table, when his little sister is asleep, and when we are on the phone. His favorite phrase is "Hey Siri, set volume to 100%." His favorite song is the PJ Masks song, which Siri dutifully plays when called upon. Every. Single. Time. I…

I feel like this is a big missing piece for voice activated things. I've got an Echo device ~10ft from my TV, and it gets activated from Netflix (Parks & Rec mostly... I blame Rob Lowe) all the time. I should be able to go into the app and label it as a false activation so it can ignore it in the future

The app already has a feature for that. It will keep a list of all the times it was activated and a recording you can play back of what phrase activated it. You can also tap a button to send feedback if it activated with the wrong phrase.

Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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Post by srcmap »

What's the technical reason to limit the wake words to only "Hey Siri", "OK Google", etc?

Should one be able to "Personalized" to his/her own phase PER Device such as "Hey Commander Data" for Iphone 6, "Hey Counselor Troi " for IPad Pro or "Ok Skynet" for the google phone?

That should also solve the problem where someone said "OK Google" in TV Shows/Podcast and wakeup all the google devices.

With the latest "Deep Voice" tech, the device should be able to response with the actors' voice too.

I remember seeing a clip of Chinese TV show when the actress said (in Chinese) "Honey, Honey where are you?" and the phone on chair wake up and said "Honey, I am here, I am here. " And tons of folks in the youtube comments ask "What kind of phone is that and I want it!". I told my wife that and she immediately said she wanted it too.

I still don't know which brand of Chinese phone actually has that features or if that was just imagination of the TV show writer. Someone should build and and I know my wife wants it.

Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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Post by mattigames »

sib wrote: post #30
mattigames wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, they don't want to give users too much control; Siri is an important brand by itself and Apple doesn't want people going around skipping it.

Yes. In this case, the selection of a wake word ("Alexa") or phrase ("Hey Siri" or "OK Google") is driven primarily by performance (i.e., reduction of false accepts & false rejects). The folks designing these products know that, even though customers say that they'd like to customize the wake word or phrase, if the actual performance is significantly worse, those customers will not be happy. We experimented with this…

Fair enough.

Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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Post by ExactoKnight »

millstone wrote: post #53
ExactoKnight wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's utterly astonishing that Google still has the hubris not to give it a personal name. People want to believe they're talking to a personal assistant, even if that isn't true, and Google is stupidly stripping them of that.

I think it’s just a branding thing. Notice how e.g. the app is named “Google Chrome” (but not “Mozilla Firefox”).

But in this case it doesn't work. I don't repeat the name "Chrome" 20 times a day like I will for a Google Home. This is a serious f*cking flaw and it actually makes me worry for Google's stock price that they can't see how obvious of a problem this is and/or are too paralyzed to fix it.

Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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Post by dkonofalski »

StephenMelon wrote: post #32
brd529 wrote: post #25

My biggest problem with the homepod is that my 5 year old has learned that he can turn on _any song he wants_ whenever he wants by yelling "hey siri." He loves it! He yells at the dinner table, when his little sister is asleep, and when we are on the phone. His favorite phrase is "Hey Siri, set volume to 100%." His favorite song is the PJ Masks song, which Siri dutifully plays when called upon. Every. Single. Time. I…

Unfortunately “Hey Siri” starts to grate the 70th time you say it in 3 days. I would actually now rather walk across the room to touch the Homepod than have to say the phrase so much. It’s still in uncanny valley territory a lot of the time as it isn’t smart enough to keep context between interactions or react in a human-like way. I think a retroactive activation feature would be the way to go, ie. be able to say “Si…

If you remember the song, you can play it again and say "Hey Siri, I love this song" to amend that. If you don't remember the song, you can go into Apple Music and view your votes and change from there.

Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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Post by dkonofalski »

ExactoKnight wrote: post #46
sib wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. In this case, the selection of a wake word ("Alexa") or phrase ("Hey Siri" or "OK Google") is driven primarily by performance (i.e., reduction of false accepts & false rejects). The folks designing these products know that, even though customers say that they'd like to customize the wake word or phrase, if the actual performance is significantly worse, those customers will not be happy. We experimented with this…

"Computer" should be the wake word, and everyone would be happy with that thanks to global, english interoperability in all places and contexts. But thanks to the hubris of corporate branding and marketing departments we are unlikely to have this universally understandable command usable. Instead to use any light switch every consumer will need to ask what bloody set up the person has...

The problem with that is that people use the word "computer" in natural speech far too often to make it useful as a wake word. You'll continually get false positives anytime someone in a sci-fi show says "check the computer" or "computer, tea, earl gray, hot".

Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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Post by dkonofalski »

sowbug wrote: post #48
duskwuff wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The title of that movie was chosen specifically to be a homophone for "I love dogs", so Siri's confusion is understandable. :)

In 1992 Apple gave me a T-shirt for supplying speech samples used to train their System 7 voice recognition. Below a picture of bunch of apple cores strewn on a beach was the caption "I helped Apple wreck a nice beach!"

That's amazing.

"I helped Apple recognize speech" for those struggling.

Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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Post by dkonofalski »

smortaz wrote: post #2

On a separate note, I have yet to get Siri to transcribe "Isle of Dogs" correctly. It's always "I love dogs" which is quite ok by me :).

You can tap anything that Siri hears you say and fix it. Unfortunately, that means you might end up with the opposite problem in the future.

Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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Post by dkonofalski »

jorvi wrote: post #27
pwython wrote: post #12

Cool little insight into their progress. I'm excited for the day Siri can differentiate my voice and my wife's so we can use a single HomePod with two iCloud accounts. For example, Siri reading off calendar appointments from an iCloud account based on who's asking.

That feature is not blocked by technical but by arbitrary limits. Whether it is a family iPad, Apple TV or HomePod, Apple strongly believes in 1:1 device-person (or more accurate, device-iCloud account) mapping.

The HomePod was designed not to be a single-user device. Especially after reading the OP article, I think it's more of a technical limit than anything because you could potentially give away information that didn't belong to a user if the user isn't detected correctly.
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