iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy • Hacker News Board

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by dang » Sat, Apr 07, 2018, 6:24 PM UTC

feelin_googley wrote: post #60

dang wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Duplicate comments are not ok here. For a long time now—and an astonishing number of posts—you've been using HN basically to post agitprop. The trouble isn't your opinions—whatever they are, I'm sure plenty of other users agree with them, all of whom manage to use HN just fine. The trouble is that you've crossed into being a single-purpose account, which is not cool. HN threads are for conversations, not agendas. One…

Its not a duplicate. @mercer suggested the last paragraph should be removed, so thats what I did. Alas, the edit period had expired. Edit: Notice that youve toned down your original reply, which had statements like "No one cares about your opinions about Google, Apple or Facebook." It seems I have agitated you. I apologise.

I didn't say "no one cares". Originally I wrote "We really don't care about your opinions of Apple or Facebook or Google". That is true, in the sense that if you flipped the high bit on all your opinions to turn them into the opposite opinions, we'd have the same moderation response.

But I've learned it's better not to word things that way. I can't easily stop myself from typing the first version of a comment more strongly than I know is helpful, so my solution is to sand off the sharp edges by editing, which I do a lot of.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

#62

Post by feelin_googley » Sat, Apr 07, 2018, 6:43 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #61

feelin_googley wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not a duplicate. @mercer suggested the last paragraph should be removed, so thats what I did. Alas, the edit period had expired. Edit: Notice that youve toned down your original reply, which had statements like "No one cares about your opinions about Google, Apple or Facebook." It seems I have agitated you. I apologise.

I didn't say "no one cares". Originally I wrote " We really don't care about your opinions of Apple or Facebook or Google". That is true, in the sense that if you flipped the high bit on all your opinions to turn them into the opposite opinions, we'd have the same moderation response. But I've learned it's better not to word things that way. I can't easily stop myself from typing the first version of a comment more s…

I dont have any issue with editing comments. I use the edit feature constantly myself.

Im just making clear I am not trying to cause agitation. Thats not the intent.

I try to be sparing with opinions. I dislike having to type prefix or postfix statements with "IMO" again and again, but I want to make explicit what is only an opinion versus what are facts or observations because ("IMO") opinions are almost always worthless. I prefer facts and questions.

Most of the volume of posts I made the past few weeks were not opinions but were excerpts and pointers to articles: facts and some journalists opinions.

The truth is I waste too much time "interacting" with this addictive forum. Its a distraction.

If you ban me from ever posting anything ever again on HN, in all honesty, you will probably be doing me a favour.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

#63

Post by dcow » Sun, Apr 08, 2018, 8:49 AM UTC

acdha wrote: post #12

dcow wrote: post #10

Does anyone have a pastebin copy or something? I don't log into gh on my phone and gists are behind a reg-wall now...

It loads on mobile Safari without a login. Do you have any browser extensions which might be causing that?

I have Firefox Focus installed. I've definitely talked to other people who have also been unable to read gists lately without logging in. Would github care about adblockers?

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by acdha » Sun, Apr 08, 2018, 4:13 PM UTC

dcow wrote: post #63

acdha wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It loads on mobile Safari without a login. Do you have any browser extensions which might be causing that?

I have Firefox Focus installed. I've definitely talked to other people who have also been unable to read gists lately without logging in. Would github care about adblockers?

I also use Focus so I don’t think it’s that. Maybe A/B testing gone terribly wrong?

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by feelin_googley » Sun, Apr 08, 2018, 4:52 PM UTC

mercer wrote: post #50

feelin_googley wrote: post #46

Its encouraging to be reminded that still not everyone who uses Apple hardware runs MacOS exclusively. https://sivers.org/openbsd http://www.sacrideo.us/openbsd-on-macbook/ However I have not heard any reports of anyone running an alternative OS on iPhone or iPad hardware. With every passing year I continue to think it would be interesting to observe how users would choose if Apple hardware and Apple software were so…

I'm almost certain that your comment wouldn't be greyed out if you hadn't added that last paragraph.

Well, I tried posting the comment with the last paragraph removed to test your theory.

As expected, within 24hrs, someone downvoted it.

I agree with author of the gist on many points. With iOS, autonomy has been removed. He failed to mention the user is not even permitted to use her own time servers. Apple is the sole permissible timekeeper.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by mercer » Sun, Apr 08, 2018, 11:46 PM UTC

feelin_googley wrote: post #62

dang wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say "no one cares". Originally I wrote " We really don't care about your opinions of Apple or Facebook or Google". That is true, in the sense that if you flipped the high bit on all your opinions to turn them into the opposite opinions, we'd have the same moderation response. But I've learned it's better not to word things that way. I can't easily stop myself from typing the first version of a comment more s…

I dont have any issue with editing comments. I use the edit feature constantly myself. Im just making clear I am not trying to cause agitation. Thats not the intent. I try to be sparing with opinions. I dislike having to type prefix or postfix statements with "IMO" again and again, but I want to make explicit what is only an opinion versus what are facts or observations because ("IMO") opinions are almost always wort…

I don't mean this in a mean way, but you do seem to care a little too intensely (about both fb/apple/etc. and the effects of that on your karma and whatnot). Wouldn't a good alternative be to just tone it down a bit, if possible? Because honestly I don't think you're wrong probably most of the time, so your contributions could be valuable.

I often struggle with my own conduct in social settings, and I've been called 'too intense' more than once, among other things. I don't know your particular story, or if there is a 'story', but I'd really hate the idea that you'd leave entirely instead of finding a way to be you and still fall within the acceptable range of HN commenters. And not get too addicted, of course :). I've been so unsuccessful at the latter that I decided to 'use it for good' and build my own little plugins so at least I'm learning something while being here.