How fast is AMP really?

Post by fastball » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 3:17 AM UTC

JoshMnem wrote: post #46

seanwilson wrote: post #44

I think the point of AMP is it gives Google a simple and reliable way to detect fast rendering pages that render well on mobile in a way that can't be easily gamed. When you allow unrestricted usage of JavaScript that's changing page content, loading styles etc. for example, detecting pages like this is more difficult. You can write performant pages without AMP but how would Google reliably detect pages like this? I'…

> I think I understand what it's trying to do. It's appifying the WWW on Google's domain and allowing them to dictate how sites are monetized. On the most basic level, it isn't motivated by speed.

Post by pcwalton » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 3:17 AM UTC

lern_too_spel wrote: post #53

geuis wrote: post #33

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AMP is a cancer on search results. The purpose of a search engine is to provide the best links it can to content related to a user’s search. The search engine should not be providing the content of the search result as a primary link. Having a backup cache of the link is fine in case it changes or disappears. It’s the responsibility of the original site to be able to serve its visitors.

Most users think otherwise. Most users prefer results that load instantly, which is why the dominant search engines in the US, Japan, China, and Russia as well as the dominant short message sharing services in the US and China all provide special support for AMP results.

Post by wruza » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 3:47 AM UTC

dingo_bat wrote: post #35

user5994461 wrote: post #20

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You must be American then because that's the American format. Different countries and languages have different format of numbers. That's one of the most common issue in internationalization. If you send a bill for a 5,000 dollars service, expect your international customers to send you back five dollars. The comma is broadly interpreted as the decimal separator.

I think it's less to do with country and more to do with language. All English speaking countries use the comma as separator, and the decimal point as the decimal separator. So, if you're reading an article that is written in English, from context you know that decimal points will be used as decimal separator and comma will be used as digit grouping. No confusion. However, confusion happens when non-native English sp…

Post by Sylos » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 4:02 AM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #54

cptskippy wrote: post #45

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It didn't seem that fast to me compared to other sites, then I realized I'm running Firefox with uBlock while the rest of you are probably on Chrome.

On a phone? Last time I tried adblocking on a phone I was super irritated by it. Some proxy setup that never quite worked and felt like it slowed everything down.

Post by stephen_g » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 4:12 AM UTC

chc wrote: post #48

user5994461 wrote: post #20

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You must be American then because that's the American format. Different countries and languages have different format of numbers. That's one of the most common issue in internationalization. If you send a bill for a 5,000 dollars service, expect your international customers to send you back five dollars. The comma is broadly interpreted as the decimal separator.

I thought it was broadly the English-language format. AFAIK the comma is the thousands separator in the US, the UK, Australia and Canada.