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Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

#61

Nice to see win XP continues to be a supported platform.

Honest question - why? There are kids enlisting in the army now that were born after XP was released.

> There are kids enlisting in the army now that were born after XP was released.

Does the army accept 16-year-olds?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP

"It was released to manufacturing on August 24, 2001, and broadly released for retail sale on October 25, 2001."

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

#62
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenKeychain is currently the best way to manage PGP keys on any platform. I don't know why there's no good UI for the desktop, Enigmail is a distant second.

> OpenKeychain is currently the best way to manage PGP keys on any platform. How is it the best on any platform? I thought it only existed on Android?

I mean it's the best of any GUI on any platform. It's Android-only, yes.

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

#64
post #31

I'll have to give it a shot, but the last time I used thunderbird it was unusably slow at pretty much everything. Compacting my folders would help for a day or two, and then it'd basically become unresponsive for 30s or more with any user input. I hope they focus on performance in coming revisions.

I keep using Thunderbird because I haven't found anything better, but it's unbearably slow. I'd gladly jump ship to a better cross platform, featureful, responsive email client, but apparently they don't make these anymore.

There’s no money in email clients.

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

#65

Mu4e + emacs is pretty neat and quite zippy

I’m using this setup too for quite a while now and overall, I’m pretty happy with it. But some HTML mail is barely readable. How do you deal with that?

I’ve written an emacs function which opens the mail in firefox, but I’m not really fond of that as every remote content is loaded by the browser. Is there a way to stop that?

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

#66

Mu4e + emacs is pretty neat and quite zippy

You should take a look at notmuch [1]. It takes a little bit of time to get started (I recommend afew [2] for initial tagging), but I don't think I could ever go back to another mail system. It changes the way that you go through mail, no more folders: between tagging and extremely fast searches, there's no need. Just like an application launcher on modern desktops, there's no need to go through a big menu: press your search key, type what you're thinking, and there it is.

It doubles the size of your maildir with the indexing, which is a downside if you're crunched for space, but maybe that gives you an idea for just how much is indexed and how fast you can expect searching to be.

It's fair to say that the most popular interface for it is the emacs interface, which is great if you're already using emacs for mail because your workflow won't change substantially. There are other interfaces available, I have used one called alot [3] and find it to be very good as well.

[1]: https://notmuchmail.org/

[2]: https://github.com/afewmail/afew

[3]: https://github.com/pazz/alot

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

#67

I'll have to give it a shot, but the last time I used thunderbird it was unusably slow at pretty much everything. Compacting my folders would help for a day or two, and then it'd basically become unresponsive for 30s or more with any user input. I hope they focus on performance in coming revisions.

Try a new profile, vacuuming it, and/or moving ancient mail to separate folders.

Poor answers to performance problems like this is the number one reason why Firefox lost so much market share to Chrome. Until Mozilla and friends pay attention to user pain, no amount of "creating a new profile" will improve the situation.

Hell, you can search the entirety of the public internet in a fraction of a second, but a few hundred thousand emails locks up your machine for the better part of a minute? Maybe the Rust folks working on parallelism can spend a few sprints giving TB some love.

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

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post #65

Mu4e + emacs is pretty neat and quite zippy

I’m using this setup too for quite a while now and overall, I’m pretty happy with it. But some HTML mail is barely readable. How do you deal with that? I’ve written an emacs function which opens the mail in firefox, but I’m not really fond of that as every remote content is loaded by the browser. Is there a way to stop that?

with the xwidgets functionality its possible to view html mail in fashion that looks pretty much like chrome/firefox inside emacs with webkitgtk sadly I can't seem to get that feature working on my emacs on funtoo or manjaro.

See. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mu-discuss/JqHEGycEy...

If you have any suggestions regarding this I'd love to hear it.

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

#70
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Mailspring for a couple of months now on Linux and it's been a very good experience. I think it's better than Thunderbird if you are more used to webmail clients.

>if you are more used to webmail clients. If you want to use a "webmail" client, wouldn't it be more simple to just open the browser ? Instead of installing a separate copy of chrome to run some js deployed locally ?

no, not really
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