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Re: Peak Oil is History

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>But the problem is that we do not need the best teachers in the world, we need a lot of teachers. A good teacher in a class of 40 doesn’t help a thing. The conventional wisdom on class sizes is being challenged currently. >Hendrik Verwoerd was not the be all and end all of the NP government. You know that many of the policies changed after him? In the 1970's, well after Verwoerd's demise, a black child's education g…

> The conventional wisdom on class sizes is being challenged currently. This is a statement without any meaning. Yeah, large class sizes with 800 students is OK in college. But it is a huge as difference between primary schools and secondary schools where children need more individual attention. How will a teacher check that each child writes properly, or get a chance to speak? I’ve been learning a foreign language r…

Regarding class sizes, I refer you to the recent news about Gates Foundation findings regarding class size, versus teacher quality. Large numbers of poor/mediocre teachers and small class sizes are not necessarily better than good teachers with larger class sizes.

South Africa's densities are low because of apartheid planning. Segregation trumped density or sustaintability.

Freight rail has indeed declined in South Africa, partly because of corruption, but the neglect started many years before. South Africa's railway rolling stock is, on average, decades old, so the lack of investment in rail, and promotion of road transport, started long before the present government took over.

The lower life expectancy is due to HIV/Aids and it is similar to neigbouring countries. In the (highly unlikely) event that the Apartheid government had survived, I doubt that the life expectancy figures would have been much better. (And the AIDS epidemic took hold under the apartheid government).The infant mortality rate remains better than the world average.

The Apartheid regime was not viewed as a benevolent dictatorship by the majority of South Africans (or the rest of the world), so comparisons to Singapore are spurious. Instead, Apartheid was an organised state policy to further the interests of white people, at the expense of all others, monopolising the wealth and resources of the country, while throwing enough crumbs at a deliberately dumbed-down black population, to keep them docile.

Re: Peak Oil is History

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post #61
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The conventional wisdom on class sizes is being challenged currently. This is a statement without any meaning. Yeah, large class sizes with 800 students is OK in college. But it is a huge as difference between primary schools and secondary schools where children need more individual attention. How will a teacher check that each child writes properly, or get a chance to speak? I’ve been learning a foreign language r…

Regarding class sizes, I refer you to the recent news about Gates Foundation findings regarding class size, versus teacher quality. Large numbers of poor/mediocre teachers and small class sizes are not necessarily better than good teachers with larger class sizes. South Africa's densities are low because of apartheid planning. Segregation trumped density or sustaintability. Freight rail has indeed declined in South A…

> Large numbers of poor/mediocre teachers and small class sizes are not necessarily better than good teachers with larger class sizes.

I suspect that this probably referred to class sizes of 15 (small) and 30 (large). In South Africa, a small class is 35 and a large class is 80. It is quite a difference.

How do you think a teacher would keep rudimentary discipline in such a big class? You cannot even check their homework.

Learning a new language, it is important to talk it. In a class size of 80 people, each person would get 45 seconds to talk or answer a question in a double period (assuming that there was no lesson or any interruption otherwise). Learning a language would be impossible for these people.

> South Africa's densities are low because of apartheid planning. Segregation trumped density or sustaintability.

South Africa’s densities are low because South Africa only industrialized fairly recently and we have a natural low density (40 people per square kilometre).

> The lower life expectancy is due to HIV/Aids and it is similar to neighbouring countries.

I think that you set the bar artificially low when you compare with neighbouring countries (Civilwartorn Mozambique, Mugabe Zimbabwe and the Kleptocracies of Lesotho and Swaziland).

> In the (highly unlikely) event that the Apartheid government had survived, I doubt that the life expectancy figures would have been much better. (And the AIDS epidemic took hold under the apartheid government).

The NP government of De Klerk had a surprisingly good AIDS program (seeing as the disease was then a smaller problem).

You seem to gloss over Mbeki’s AIDS denial (he did not want to give pregnant mothers even Nverapine which would have prevented mother to child transmission of AIDS during birth). The courts had to be used to force the government to change.

Even Harvard University had a study which they claimed that Mbeki’s government at least caused 300,000 deaths. That is genocide. The world would have been up in arms if the Apartheid government had a similar policy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/26/aids-south-afric...

> The Apartheid regime was not viewed as a benevolent dictatorship by the majority of South Africans (or the rest of the world),

So? Neither Singapore (or for that matter, Pinochet’s Chile) is/was viewed as benevolent dictatorships. All things considered, statistically the country was governed better than neighbouring countries.

> Instead, Apartheid was an organised state policy to further the interests of white people, at the expense of all others,

It is ironic that it is middle class white people whose income grew* the most in post-Apartheid South Africa (see again the Knight & XX study I mentioned) while unemployment and real salaries fell for black people.

So, if you complain about the enrichment of white people, the current government is doing a much better job of it. Income inequality increased significantly the past 15 years.

> deliberately dumbed-down black population, to keep them docile.

This is also debatable. The biggest expansion of tertiary education on the African continent (for both black and white people) occurred during the 70ies and 80ies. Even the TIMSS study (Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study) scores were higher in 1994/1995 than in the newer study. There are numerous international benchmarks which showed that the quality of education declined.

Re: Peak Oil is History

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> The Spiel that white people considered black people their enemies during Apartheid Presumably what was meant was the common enemy was not the "darkies" but the rest of the world coming together and imposing sanctions. > Yet the ideology of full democracy (i.e. tyranny of the majority) is also spectacularly failing. Yet no one would acknowledge the latter failings. Naomi Klein does in The Shock Doctrine and a heck o…

> but the rest of the world coming together and imposing sanctions. Maybe. It is just ironic that they are standing in line to do business with countries such as Equatorial Guinea ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teodoro_Obiang_Nguema_Mbasogo ) and Saudi Arabia. > Naomi Klein does in The Shock Doctrine and a heck of a lot of people have read that book. I am not a big fan of Naomi Klein. She probably attacked the govern…

I am a big fan. I don't care that you're not.
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