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Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by omaranto »

btschaegg wrote: post #9
s4vi0r wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there some way to tell org exactly how I want it to spit out HTML? I was going to do my blog entirely with org-mode+org-publish, but it spits out a mess of HTML and also a small bit of js for some reason, so I'm just writing html directly myself now. I don't really find writing html myself all that annoying or anything, but it'd be nice if I could get org to generate really clean/simple HTML for me that I could th…

I've been looking for a similar solution - albeit not for HTML - but haven't found anything convincing so far. My train of thought was: It'd be great to have a a canonical XML format for org files to export to, since after that, you could essentially write XSLT transforms for almost any target format (even back to org-files to go full circle). In my case, that e.g. would be odt-files with branding for the organizatio…

I doubt XSLT is any easier to write than a new Org export backend, but that's probably a matter of personal preference.

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by abhirag »

s4vi0r wrote: post #4
eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Is there some way to tell org exactly how I want it to spit out HTML? I was going to do my blog entirely with org-mode+org-publish, but it spits out a mess of HTML and also a small bit of js for some reason, so I'm just writing html directly myself now. I don't really find writing html myself all that annoying or anything, but it'd be nice if I could get org to generate really clean/simple HTML for me that I could th…

Custom css is supported for html export, from the docs at (https://orgmode.org/manual/CSS-support.html) --

The HTML export back-end includes a compact default style in each exported HTML file. To override the default style with another style, use these keywords in the Org file. They will replace the global defaults the HTML exporter uses.

#+HTML_HEAD: #+HTML_HEAD_EXTRA:

To just turn off the default style, customize org-html-head-include-default-style variable, or use this option line in the Org file.

#+OPTIONS: html-style:nil

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by _emacsomancer_ »

eadmund wrote: post #40
quotemstr wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Org-mode has been nice the few times I've tried it, but without decent mobile support or multi-master syncing, it's hard to adopt it as my main productivity tool. I've tried a few mobile org-mode clients and been universally disappointed. I'm increasingly convinced that the right path forward is to give Emacs an Android port (it's not that hard) and let the mobile org just be the mainline org, perhaps with a layer of…

> without decent mobile support or multi-master syncing, it's hard to adopt it as my main productivity tool. I find that for a true productivity tool, I'm fine relying on my desktop & laptop. I'm actually dialling back what I use my phone for, simply because I can't trust either of the major mobile OSes to respect me & my privacy. It would be awesome to have all of org available on a phone though; you're not wrong at…

On Android, Termux [https://termux.com/] gives you access to Emacs; and it enables using the volume buttons a bit like modifier keys.

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by _emacsomancer_ »

Cacti wrote: post #13
eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Ive tried so many times to use gnus over the years, without luck. Any suggestions? Or links?

I'd recommend mu4e [https://www.djcbsoftware.nl/code/mu/mu4e.html] for email. I used it for a number of years; switched to gnus for a year, and then ended up back on mu4e.

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by dredmorbius »

_emacsomancer_ wrote: post #63
eadmund wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> without decent mobile support or multi-master syncing, it's hard to adopt it as my main productivity tool. I find that for a true productivity tool, I'm fine relying on my desktop & laptop. I'm actually dialling back what I use my phone for, simply because I can't trust either of the major mobile OSes to respect me & my privacy. It would be awesome to have all of org available on a phone though; you're not wrong at…

On Android, Termux [ https://termux.com/ ] gives you access to Emacs; and it enables using the volume buttons a bit like modifier keys.

Termux is, hands down, the best thing to happen to Android. It's still pretty problematic and incomplete as a productive shell tool.

Android will kill applications pretty indiscriminately, so your Termux session persistence isn't good.

Terminal performance is poor, especially on scrollback, for some reason.

I've bumped into numerous SSH issues.

My general preference would be for a hybrid tablet/laptop system, running Linux, rather than Android (or iOS). We may eventually get there.

The other thing tablet formats are good for is reading electronic document formats, with an 8" or better tablet size. Though a large eInk device might be better there (again, ideally with shell capabilities).

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by [deleted] »

s4vi0r wrote: post #4
eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Is there some way to tell org exactly how I want it to spit out HTML? I was going to do my blog entirely with org-mode+org-publish, but it spits out a mess of HTML and also a small bit of js for some reason, so I'm just writing html directly myself now. I don't really find writing html myself all that annoying or anything, but it'd be nice if I could get org to generate really clean/simple HTML for me that I could th…

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Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by mjmein »

Spivak wrote: post #29
mjmein wrote: post #26

Org-mode and babel sound like good ideas, but in practice I've found it very finicky to use. My main problem with it is that, unlike with executing commands in the shell, with org you don't get any progress, and emacs seems to hang while running the command. For example, running apt update tends to freeze emacs without any progress reporting for a few minutes. I'm hoping that I'm doing something wrong and that someon…

It's not 'freezing' Emacs so to speak, source block execution is synchronous. Check out: https://github.com/astahlman/ob-async if you want to change that.

Thanks. I've tried that in the past. The problem is still that it doesn't give any feedback on progress.

I still struggle to see how people actually use this with devops on a day to day basis.

I think that some type of integration with tmux would work well - have a running tmux session, and then just queue commands from emacs to that session, instead of running directly through emacs.

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by mtzet »

brandonmenc wrote: post #36
eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Is there a good side-by-side video of someone using magit vs the command line? I keep reading the documentation for magit, and I can't really imagine it giving me a huge advantage over GitX plus good command line completion settings.

I'll second the chunking feature. Magit is very good at staging and unstaging files and PARTS of a file. I don't know any good way of doing this on the command line.

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by peterbecich »

eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

"ag" and "ag.el" have been of great utility to me. Together they replace "find-grep," and exclude files in a relevant .gitignore from the search.

https://github.com/Wilfred/ag.el

Read find-grep exclusion patterns from a .findignore file: https://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/19038/6682

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by gkya »

s4vi0r wrote: post #4
eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Is there some way to tell org exactly how I want it to spit out HTML? I was going to do my blog entirely with org-mode+org-publish, but it spits out a mess of HTML and also a small bit of js for some reason, so I'm just writing html directly myself now. I don't really find writing html myself all that annoying or anything, but it'd be nice if I could get org to generate really clean/simple HTML for me that I could th…

I've been blogging with org-publish for a while, but I switched to a Ruby script instead [1]. I'd not recommend using org-publish for this, because it's slow, and it's hard to add new posts. It's nice for static projects (say like a bunch of PDFs or some documentation maybe), but it does not lend itself to a more dynamic thing like a blog (dynamic in the sense that you want to add new pages rather frequently). Applying a custom HTML template is difficult, it means you need to either implement many org-export functions or use HTML_HEAD settings and a stylesheet to tame org's output. I say this as a happy everyday user of Org mode, both for word processing and any sort of notes, and my entire agenda and todo-lists and stuff.

The JS is for interacting with tables, if I'm not wrong.

[1] https://www.gkayaalp.com/blog/20180221_siteremake.html

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