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Apple really is amazing. We keep thinking they are going to go after the usual suspects like Google, Microsoft, and RIM. Now they are aiming their guns at Facebook. Mark Zuckerberg must not be happy.

I would say Last.fm is closer to the centre of Apple's crosshairs

Why does Apple care about Last.fm? Does Last.fm make hundreds of millions of dollars a year? Because that seems like the minimum action to move the dials for them now.

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No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame. That aside, I'm looking forward to see how this work out. Given that a lot of people could mistake RWW for Facebook login[1], maybe being stuck inside iTunes could be an advantage. In a sense of "Open iTunes, click this, here's your profile!" [1]: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_to_be_yo...

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Not an Emacs user, I take it?

I consider emacs more of OS/environment rather than an application... but I've started to become an emacs addict over the past year.

"a great operating system, lacking only a decent editor"

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It's interesting that this is only for music. You can see this being just as applicable for movies and tv shows - and of course apps. Presumably this is a toe in the water and they'll extend it if it works. But this certainly has lots of potential for extension.

Because it's just music, I feel like I might use it more, too. I'd feel less self-concious posting my thoughts on music I've listened to, etc. when that's the whole reason why people are there.

This vs. on facebook where people are wary of TMI and people who spam their feed, this is all about doing that.

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This is how Apple rolls and I must say I am impressed although it was expected. They have long been sitting on one of the strongest and certainly most profitable "social" networks. Now they have used it to do one of the most classical goals in business. Profit maximization. I don't even think this is something other companies can learn much from as most seem to be walking around like lemmings trying to incorporate fe…

You say it was expected, yet I heard no one predict it.

This was one of my prediction in the "What can kill Facebook" thread.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1604211

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Will they really have to take on Spotify though? Mightn't the content providers look at Apple's more attractive market and just pull the plug on Spotify (which would be cannibalising their own ITunes/Ping sales)?

That might happen of course, but the question is whether they will see that or whether they will think hey! two revenue streams. None the less I believe music will go streaming, it has to which becomes really obvious once you try out spotify (well it did for me and most of my friends who use it)

For the users it's obvious that streaming is the way to go, Spotify is golden. But for the producers? I think it's possible we might see the streaming model completely abandoned.

An interesting thought is whether they'd experiment with the rental model (pay per play) for iTunes music. Not just interesting economically but in terms of how appreciation of music might change.

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I really enjoyed that "open standards" event, which was broadcast via HTML5 that only worked in Safari and on Mac.

> I really enjoyed that "open standards" event, which was broadcast via HTML5 HTML5 is a markup language, not a streaming transport. Apple used HTTP Live Streaming, which is tech they're trying to push as a new standard. It has certain technical benefits: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming I believe the VLC nightly build has support for it, but Apple's not going to go out and tell people "Hey, go use th…

You are right, of course. I was using HTML5 as it is commonly used as an umbrella term for everything new and standards related on the web these days in my snark comment. Interestingly enough, I tried with VLC to no avail. I liked that new nano, seems like something we ought to have in the year 2010, straight out of future.

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No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame. That aside, I'm looking forward to see how this work out. Given that a lot of people could mistake RWW for Facebook login[1], maybe being stuck inside iTunes could be an advantage. In a sense of "Open iTunes, click this, here's your profile!" [1]: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_to_be_yo...

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