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I have one now, it's quite pleasant. I liked the cameras on Lumias better, but overall, I have no complaints about my Nokia 6 - and it can probably stop a bullet too.
Hype train is chugging away for the 7 plus. And I have to admit, it hits many sweet spots.
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I agree with you until the WP part. WP was always destined to be a failure in the context of that time. It didn't matter that Microsoft paid Nokia billions, because you can't fix everything by throwing more money at the problem. Microsoft learned that the hard way with its investments in the app stores, too, and in other markets, too. People who followed the ecosystems very closely then knew that even Android was luc…
> I agree with you until the WP part. WP was always destined to be a failure in the context of that time. WP's problem was in the length of time between flagship phones, and the length of time between updates. WP7 came out, with a big marketing push, and it was an overall good OS. The initial wave of phones were received OK, but the platform had some warts that needed to be cleaned up. What MS did is announce that th…
(It's possible that my local perspective is overvaluing them though, German market shares often don't match what's going on e.g. in the US)
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> Personally, I think they should have gone with AOSP It's certainly complex to armchair quarterback the idea, but I don't think Nokia would have had any more luck than Amazon's FireOS (or the failed/doomed commercial attempt at Cyanogen, for that matter) if they had attempted that. AOSP has long been a seemingly open carrot with far too many hidden and closed sticks in Google's control.
Do you mean the FirePhone specifically? FireOS is still used on the Fire tablets, which appear to be one of the most successful non-Apple tablet around. At least successful enough for it to be on its 7th generation with yearly refreshes, anyway. Similarly FireOS continues to mostly track AOSP, with the Android 7.1-based FireOS 6 being the latest release. I wouldn't be so quick to blame FirePhone's failings on FireOS…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS#List_of_Fire_OS_versio...
> Elop combined two different CEOs cardinal blunders: The Osborne and Ratner Effects. > In 1983, the computer manufacturer Osborne announced several new models of computers, which they said would be launched in sales after one year. In the meanwhile, sales of the old models plummeted because the consumers were waiting for the new models. Osborne ended up in bankruptcy. Gerard Ratner, on the other hand, was the CEO of…
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> Personally, I think they should have gone with AOSP It's certainly complex to armchair quarterback the idea, but I don't think Nokia would have had any more luck than Amazon's FireOS (or the failed/doomed commercial attempt at Cyanogen, for that matter) if they had attempted that. AOSP has long been a seemingly open carrot with far too many hidden and closed sticks in Google's control.
Do you mean the FirePhone specifically? FireOS is still used on the Fire tablets, which appear to be one of the most successful non-Apple tablet around. At least successful enough for it to be on its 7th generation with yearly refreshes, anyway. Similarly FireOS continues to mostly track AOSP, with the Android 7.1-based FireOS 6 being the latest release. I wouldn't be so quick to blame FirePhone's failings on FireOS…
Even before Google started moving most API investment out of AOSP and into Google Play directly, FireOS has never felt like a "real" Android. I'd wager most of its tablet users don't even realize the connection to Android. At this point, how much does Amazon really benefit from AOSP that aren't already handling themselves?
This is entirely my own supposition, but based on what I've seen of the entirely different apps platform and ecosystem for the Echo devices, especially the Echo Show "tablet", and how well it is currently doing in the market, it is very easy for me to imagine Amazon will also be getting out of the AOSP game eventually on its Fire tablets/sticks as well. It's easy to imagine Amazon would be happier to have an ecosystem it more directly owns (and doesn't have to keep fighting a cold war with Google Play).