This again falls under the heading of "environmental disaster".
What happens when I choose to “Suppress Ads” on Salon?
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#62The increased use of browser mining has made it a lot easier to convince people to globally disable Javascript (or install noscript/etc). Security concerns are rarely convincing, and tracking can be hard to explain, but paying for more electricity and worse UI response time are things people actually care about.
I have no problem at all with websites using browser mining as an alternate monetization strategy to ads, as long as: 1) Permission is requested first 2) The UX is good (it stays out of my way and doesn't slow down my device) 3) The mining finishes when I leave the site Most of the problems with the modern web stem from the failure of browser vendors to implement a good user-centric permissions model. They all hold a…
> Most of the problems with the modern web stem from the failure of browser vendors to implement a good user-centric permissions model.
I suggest that such creating a proper permission model isn't possible, because it isn't possible to determine the behavior of Turing complete programs without running them[1]. Browsers are currently chasing the impossible[2] goal of trying to enumerate badness - often only the known types of badness that fit their permission model.
> I want a simple, limited, fast, secure, document-centric platform
We had that: HTML, before Javascript. Allowing any Turing complete code to run at all will always be risky[3].
[1] halting problem
[2] http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/d...
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because even when you're not paying for electricity, there's much more profitable coins to mine.
That doesn't mean that CPU can't mine bitcoins.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If you're not going to make money mining Bitcoin, then why do it?
Re: What happens when I choose to “Suppress Ads” on Salon?
#64The increased use of browser mining has made it a lot easier to convince people to globally disable Javascript (or install noscript/etc). Security concerns are rarely convincing, and tracking can be hard to explain, but paying for more electricity and worse UI response time are things people actually care about.
> The increased use of browser mining has made it a lot easier to convince people to globally disable Javascript (or install noscript/etc). Has it though? Do you have any data to back up this assumption? I can't find ANYONE who is tech illiterate who understands any of this stuff and those that I know are tech literate either don't notice or don't care about JavaScript. I've only ever met very, very few people who di…
I've disabled JS and only enable it in incognito when needed/when mandatory for a particular site. Tedious I know, but a habit I picked up when everyone started autoplaying videos.
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#65I actually wouldn't mind if someone made a application that would run on my computer and mine for sites I choose 24/7. Something easy like Minergate or Nicehash but where you say mine for Metafilter, Reddit, and Ars.
I would totally do that since it is 26ºF right now and I am actually mining a shitcoin to heat my apartment. But you would need to have a easy to set a limit like 10% and back off (nice -19) so if I was doing heavy stuff it would throttle.
edit :: and I know minergate steals hashes. But the software is really nice.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't make sense because it's a negative-sum game. The only thing people are actually using Bitcoin for right now is to sell to other people for more than they bought it (or maybe to sell for less than they bought it to launder money). The total amount made by the buyers and sellers is zero (because every buyer is buying from a seller), and there has to be a constant inflow of new buyers just to cover the cost o…
Tell that to a Venezuelan, who can provide a family with a single antminer. It will make sense to you in 5 years.
Your feel-good story about Venezuela is unrelated to what I said.
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#68In the crypto money flow, I get to see the page for a $0,20 payment from me to my electricity company, but I'm still struggling to see the value transfer from the electricity company to Salon.com. Someone™ is paying good greenbacks for irrefutable proof of me wasting kilowatts. The more I try to understand that part of the crypto value chain, the more bizarre it seems. "It's a store of value", i.e. Salon.com can late…
It’s called proof of work: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
Everybody in this thread knows that it's called proof of work. What you call it is not the point.
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#70This again falls under the heading of "environmental disaster".
It blows my mind that the first site to openly make their users participate in this disaster is the supposedly "progressive" Salon.
Is it clear what they're trying to mine? They have these silly feel-good examples like folding@home but it sounds more like they're going to be moving drug money for anarcho-capitalists like everyone else in this space. Probably Monero, right?