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Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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The double negatives here make this heading really hard to parse (I actually read the abstract thinking something totally different and had to come back to check), maybe something along the lines of

"Acne vulgaris exists predominately in Western populations" or "Acne vulgaris mostly exists in Western Populations" would make it clearer.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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I'm always amused/horrified by Hacker News comments on anything health-related. Herein lie a group of incredibly smart individuals sharing anecdotal evidence and folk remedies without a lick of irony.

I'm actually horrified at the opposite. The lack of knowledge around health issues scares me. When users comment they did not know tumeric is anti inflammatory it makes me wonder.

You're frightened by people not knowing turmeric is anti inflammory?

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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If you are in the Bay Area check out Acneology or the US Face reality clinics. They basically have the whole science of acne treatment down to almost perfection. Dermatology didn't help me at all but their treatments worked wonders. I'll give out more info if anyone is interested. Source - I've had acne for a decade :( more or less cleared up now.

im interested!

Their treatment regimen goes something like this, You have a session with an esthetician who will assess your acne severity. They will give you a list of food to avoid and to no one's surprise it contains dairy and greasy foods http://www.thefacialroom.com/upload/FOODS%20AND%20LIFESTYLE%...

After that you'll have monthly sessions where they unclog all your pores(called extractions) and remove white heads afte that Peels for the hyper pigmentation.

You'll be prescribed benzoyl perioxide and mandelic serum for acne and hyperpigmentation.

After a few sessions all your pores are clean and tight and bam almost no more acne.

The peels and mandelic serum worked wonders for my hyper pigmentation.

If you are in the bay area I can give you the address of the clinic I go to.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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I noticed that on myself, high concentrations of sugar or high density carbs (pasta and bread) make it surge. A couple of friends of mine also cured a candida infection by avoiding carbs. So our diet might play a role.

If you are in the Bay Area check out Acneology or the US Face reality clinics. They basically have the whole science of acne treatment down to almost perfection. Dermatology didn't help me at all but their treatments worked wonders. I'll give out more info if anyone is interested. Source - I've had acne for a decade :( more or less cleared up now.

I just checked this out. It's a dermatologist. They offer benzoyl peroxide and salicylic acid, which are standard solutions. This is nothing special.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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I'm always amused/horrified by Hacker News comments on anything health-related. Herein lie a group of incredibly smart individuals sharing anecdotal evidence and folk remedies without a lick of irony.

I get the same feeling listening to physicists talk about neurology, which is just to say that intelligence and expertise don’t imply anything beyond the limits of one’s speciality. Besides, the quest for improved health leads to a desperate mindset, which is easily exploited.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Try cutting out dairy. That made a dramatic effect for the better in me. Milk chocolate is probably the worst for me.

Totally anecdotal, but too much chocolate is what makes me erupt. And I prefer dark chocolate, so it might be the chocolate rather than the dairy. Eating a large bar of dark chocolate should differentiate, purely in the interests of science of course.

Its the dairy

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm actually horrified at the opposite. The lack of knowledge around health issues scares me. When users comment they did not know tumeric is anti inflammatory it makes me wonder.

You're frightened by people not knowing turmeric is anti inflammory?

Since the error is being propagated- it’s turmeric.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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I'm always amused/horrified by Hacker News comments on anything health-related. Herein lie a group of incredibly smart individuals sharing anecdotal evidence and folk remedies without a lick of irony.

Its not anecdotes, its a multi year study of 1200 people. Also people often forget that there are many things science doesn't know, many health problems we have no good answers for, and that anecdotes & intuition are the only way we can generate hypotheses to validate scientifically in the first place.

There have been many, many studies discrediting the folk remedies proferred in this thread.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are in the Bay Area check out Acneology or the US Face reality clinics. They basically have the whole science of acne treatment down to almost perfection. Dermatology didn't help me at all but their treatments worked wonders. I'll give out more info if anyone is interested. Source - I've had acne for a decade :( more or less cleared up now.

I just checked this out. It's a dermatologist. They offer benzoyl peroxide and salicylic acid, which are standard solutions. This is nothing special.

Read my reply below. The prescriptions are standard the pore unclogging/extractions and peels are the real differentiator. Oh yeah and the Diet restrictions.
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