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Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Complaining about Silicon Valley political correctness while extolling the virtues of China is at best tone deaf. It’s pretty much impossible for anyone who has any experience with Asia to deny that racism is just more socially acceptable over there than in the US. And things like homosexuality are suppressed. For example, China recently banned depictions of homosexuality on TV. So of course it’s easier to say certai…

I don’t think political correctness is the correct description of what he is trying to complain about.

The word he is looking for is “entitlement caused by excessive privilege.”

The reason people in China work that hard is that there are many people in poverty who would also like to work very hard for those jobs and very little safety net.

I should also mention once again: The United States is nowhere near as racist or sexist as these countries as mentioned above.

However the common opinion is that the United States is extremely racist and sexist. To people who genuinely believe this: You have no idea what the rest of the world is like, please travel.

The things I have seen folks from China openly saying and doing in business make the United States look very fair.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-01/11/content_279...

meanwhile in the official chinese media, we get a pretty different picture. I wonder what the chinese communist party thinks of westerners assuming their people are willing to work like slaves.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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post #24

Complaining about Silicon Valley political correctness while extolling the virtues of China is at best tone deaf. It’s pretty much impossible for anyone who has any experience with Asia to deny that racism is just more socially acceptable over there than in the US. And things like homosexuality are suppressed. For example, China recently banned depictions of homosexuality on TV. So of course it’s easier to say certai…

I don’t think political correctness is the correct description of what he is trying to complain about. The word he is looking for is “entitlement caused by excessive privilege.” The reason people in China work that hard is that there are many people in poverty who would also like to work very hard for those jobs and very little safety net. I should also mention once again: The United States is nowhere near as racist…

I think that as liberals, we have a habit of fiercely criticizing problems within our own society, but will gloss over the same (or deeper) problems in other societies as 'cultural differences'. This can lead to a very rose-colored view of the situation in other countries.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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I just love the "bet on the mouse that spins the wheel faster" mentality

(and this is regardless of culture or nationality) betting on those who are sitting on their chairs longer is just "traditional" corporate shortsightedness

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

i’ve never found a country less racist than the us

The only way to think like this is to have never left the US. Unfortunately, too many American grow up not having the exposure of how people speak in the rest of the world. Ever seen an entire soccer stadium erupt into monkey calls when a black player kicks a goal? You don’t know what a climate of racism is. Americans think they are surrounded by racism, they have no idea what that actually means.

I think you misread the parent comment..

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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post #24

Complaining about Silicon Valley political correctness while extolling the virtues of China is at best tone deaf. It’s pretty much impossible for anyone who has any experience with Asia to deny that racism is just more socially acceptable over there than in the US. And things like homosexuality are suppressed. For example, China recently banned depictions of homosexuality on TV. So of course it’s easier to say certai…

The simplest way of looking at this is that the more power you divide up among increasingly small segments of your population, the more you divide the house. In China, there is the objective of China, where there is a singular focus on what is good for the people and the country. Groups that would take away from this to empower their own group are viewed as attacking the collective. America until the middle of the 19…

Why do you view the death of JFK as the inflection point?

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Complaining about Silicon Valley political correctness while extolling the virtues of China is at best tone deaf. It’s pretty much impossible for anyone who has any experience with Asia to deny that racism is just more socially acceptable over there than in the US. And things like homosexuality are suppressed. For example, China recently banned depictions of homosexuality on TV. So of course it’s easier to say certai…

The simplest way of looking at this is that the more power you divide up among increasingly small segments of your population, the more you divide the house. In China, there is the objective of China, where there is a singular focus on what is good for the people and the country. Groups that would take away from this to empower their own group are viewed as attacking the collective. America until the middle of the 19…

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Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Complaining about Silicon Valley political correctness while extolling the virtues of China is at best tone deaf. It’s pretty much impossible for anyone who has any experience with Asia to deny that racism is just more socially acceptable over there than in the US. And things like homosexuality are suppressed. For example, China recently banned depictions of homosexuality on TV. So of course it’s easier to say certai…

That’s the difference between a society where tensions are high because we’re actively trying to work through the challenges faced by our minority groups, and one where there are no tensions because the concerns of minority groups are completely suppressed. Very well put!

"We who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive." -MLK

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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I agree some parts of our society have basically forbidden any kind of discussion. That is in need of real change. Respectable and honest discussions between adults should be allowed. Sucks that conference speakers are being "checked" for political affiliations. Why not let the topic stand on its own? But of course, everyone is free to not listen to people that don't support them in some way. It's a delicate line. >…

Conference speakers being checked for political affiliation is crazy but not surprising - are there specific examples of this? On sites like reddit you often see reasonable arguments shot down based on the author's political leanings gleaned from their comment history. The chilling effect is made clear when you see people having to preface their commentary with "I hate x, but... {insert argument here}"

"You post on 'X' sub. That says all I need to know about you."
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